Manning, a nobody or a freedom fighter

Is Manning a nobody or a freedom fighter? I can't quite figure it out. The media and the puppet show is too busy covering up the facts...

 

He's a traitor to the United States. What good has he accomplished?

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Ayuh,... He was a Nobody,....


Now he's a Traitor to his country....

 

In what way could freedom have been served by this stupid traitor's actions??

Don't just ask fool questions; tell so what would give you cause to ask the question.

 

A traitor!?!?

Just so we don't get off on the wrong foot here let me ask you this.

Between a open democracy and a obscure conglomerate dictatorship, what would you choose?

 

What's the matter? You didn't get the answers that you were looking for?

Vidkun Quisling ring a bell?

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A hero of the free man.
A villian for the imperialist pigs.

 

Thats an acute notion indeed, wich tempts me to rephraze my question, if someone dared to abandon the nazi ideology during the WW2 and tell the world about what was going on in the concentration camps, whould you consider him a traitor?

 

Just a troubled youth who had access to information that he should not have access to.

A private with one or two years in the Army should not have access to classified top secret information. Privates should be doing KP, cleaning the latrine, and learning the codes and conduct of their job first. Plus, how did he get pass the top secret clearence background check Enac check, and psycholgical evaluation that should be required before they have access to information that is only for military with top secret clearences?

IMO if he wanted to make friends he did it the wrong way. And if he could not accept the violence and corruption of modern war, he should have not joined the military. Better yet his leaders should have directed him to see the chaplin to become a concentious objector. So that he is not involved with the graphic details of what war is realy like. That way he can work as a cook or in the logistics MOS.

Heads should roll, and it should be in his chain of command as well as his.

 

A fine poster boy for gays in the military.

 

Are you trying to call the US a type of Nazi Germany without actually having the nerve to say it?


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Homosexuality has long been a red flag for security clearances.

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Your views actually makes some sense, still I would argue that a seasoned general with decades in the army shouldn't need to sit on top of classified top secret information at all. It implies that he and he's predecessors did a lousy job, making the army into a breaker for corporate profit and the politicians look like headless chickens

 

He is a guy who probably has a bigger set of balls than any other soldier in the US army, he did what he did because he found the actions of the murderers running the US army to be morally reprehensible and this caused him to risk his own wellbeing for the good of humanity.

 

It is no general's place to manage the lowest ranks.
The Army works with the best personel management system in the world. It works on the system of "5" in other words, one human has the ability to effectivly manage only up to 5 people at a time. That is why government and the Army have a chain of command. A general is not the only one who has a top secret clearence. There is oviously a Company Commander who oversees 3 to 4 other junior officers with the security access to mange the operaton of that information and communication handling. So a general has other political things to do. It is those in Manning first two levels of his chain of command that are at fault. And the NCO more than likely his Sargent should have known there were personal/pyschological issues going on. IN a combat zone, these people live with eachother and are with eachother on a daily basis, and red flags should have been seen.

that is unless the intelligence field has public teacher hours that I'm not aware of.

 

Or; he could have been manipulated by his sargent to give up the secrets so they can get public support to end the war and come home early for the holidays. They may have believed the American public realy gives a crap of the military's conditions and what they are going through. After all, they are in a war zone, and others are eating turkey in luxury hotels and watching the cable news with great hopes to get excited.

 

Nice try, but Waaaayy off base...

Manning was stationed at Ft. Drum New York.....

 

Manning- naive? Yes.

Motivated by best intentions for America? - Yes.

Given way too much access to classified material for his age and rank? - Yes.

Already prejudged by the American military? - Yes.

Persecuted and tortured by the American military? - Yes.

Manning is doomed. He won't get justice, nobody does in America.

 

As opposed to where?

 

Hes a criminal. He got caught.

Turned his back on his fellow soldiers.

Coward, no heroism involved.

 

I doubt very much that he considered the brutes who featured in his exposures as ' fellows '.
It seems that there is a schism in the US military- the Old School versus the shoot-em-ups.

 

Ayuh,... That would imply that he also lied when taking his oath, when he voluntarily joined the Army...

 

Well now, perhaps the recruiting sergeant was a tad economical with the truth ?

 

He didn't, none of the files were classified top secret, the highest classification was secret which doesn't mean much.

There was no sensitive information released, embarrassing maybe but sensitive no. It was just everyday communications about nothing important.

 

Yeah in all honesty I haven't seen any real harm come from the releases. It's not like he was releasing nuclear secrets, he was leaking stuff that really seemed like it should have been public information anyway. Hopefully he'll get off light but I doubt it.