What Is The Underlying Cause Of Astronomically High Black Crime Rates?

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What Is The Underlying Cause Of Astronomically High Black Crime Rates?

  1. Genetics

    23.2%
  2. Greed

    8.1%
  3. Low intelligence

    20.2%
  4. Poverty

    38.4%
  5. Other

    48.5%
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  1. Caeia Iulia Regilia

    Caeia Iulia Regilia New Member

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    There are problems in IQ tests beyond the Flynn Effect. One of the big problems with most forms of standardized tests is that the scores seem to be going up in general. They've had to be renormalized more than once. So perhaps there are other things going on. Intelligence itself is hard to measure or define. So I don't think we're even close to figuring out how to test for intelligence rather than test taking skill in general.
     
  2. Bang'Em'Smurf

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    True. Realistically, this reference to the "black race" that the OP and other genetic determinists rely on is absurd because sub-Saharan Africans exhibit the greatest genetic diversity of any continental population.
     
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    Other: Culture.
     
  4. Zook

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    Have you ever heard of the one drop rule?

    Have you ever met any black "people" in your life?

    Have you ever lived in a black majority city or neighborhood?
     
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    Glad you agree that Ancient Greece was a so- called Black civilization.
     
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    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have ... :mrgreen:
     
  7. Zook

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    I couldn't give a crap about ancient Greece. That has no bearing on my car being vandalized by rampant black thugs in my neighborhood. It has nothing at all to do with the serious racial issues we face today and you know it. You anti-racists are experts at diverting the conversation with off-topic rants about irrelevance.

    What I will say about great ancient empires though is I look around at the world today and cannot imagine for the life of me that the negroids I see destroying their own continent as well as our cities like Detroit, St. Louis, Baltimore, Jacksonville and London, England are or were capable of building/creating anything "great."

    Not that it matters to a realist like me. All I'm concerned with is living a safe and well life and making sure my family are the same.

    Oh, and one more thing... This message is hidden because Cigar is on your ignore list.
     
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    Where I used to live so-called 'whites' were a minority as well. I remember one day sitting at my kitchen table and hearing a 'clunk' from my driveway just outside my window. When I went out, the hood to my car was up and my battery was missing. They stole my battery in broad daylight in my own driveway!!

    I went down to the local liquor store to buy beer and when I walked out, a car load of blacks were parked next to my car and some guy in a wheelchair was trying to steal my tape-player. (old-days retrofit). Luckily I had stripped the threads purposely when I installed it and he couldn't get it. When he saw me he skidaddled back to the car with the other blacks and they all were laughing and hurling racial slurs at me. I got in my car, turned the volume up all the way and slowly backed out.

    When I think about these incidents I also think of the overwhelming number of black folks that lived in the neighborhoods that were decent folks. This leads me to the conclusion that black crime is cultural in nature and not racial or ethnic.

    IMO our ancestors made a huge mistake in accepting slaves from black African nations who, to this day, still have slavery. This has caused a multi-generational sterotyping of the hated 'whitey' or the hated 'man.' Race baiters like Jessie Jaction or Al Sharpton play to this hatred for $$$$ and therefore support the continuance of this culture of hate.
     
  9. Zook

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    Whether what you say is right and it is all down to culture, it's never going to change. The vast majority of blacks are proud of this retarded culture and it's racist for anyone to question it in todays society.
     
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    The one drop rule is a racial fantasy, and even it wasn't, it doesn't apply to the statement you were quoting. There's various types of indigenous people in Sub-Saharan Africa. Only an ignorant racist would believe that they're just mixtures of the same people. Some of those groups have more genetic variance than Europeans and West Africans.
     
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    Only an ignorant, anti-racist, ******* would believe they aren't.
     
  12. Hanzou

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congoid_race
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khoisan

     
  13. Bang'Em'Smurf

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    I met one or two when I attended Compton Community College.

    Why do you ask?
     
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    In my opinion, racism may die out on its own, simply by being moral enough to bear true witness to our own laws and actually solve official poverty, instead of engendering the moral turpitude of "racism".
     
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    A population geneticist would probably believe that sub-Saharan Africans aren't a genetically homogenous population, actually. Consider Li et al.'s Worldwide human relationships inferred from genome-wide patterns of variation: "We compared SNP haplotype heterozygosity across populations and found, consistent with earlier reports (22), that it is highest in sub- Saharan Africa and decreases steadily with distance from this region (Fig. 3B)."
     
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    It wont die as long as people keep changing the definition of racism, it gets wider and wider with time.

    Answering the OP: i believe its the ghetto culture and genes, theres no wonder that wherever there are blacks there is high crime, same applies to gypsies or arabs.
     
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    Can you explain why Barbados and the Bahamas are the third and fourth ranked American countries on the Human Development Index (after the U.S. and Canada)?

    According to the CIA World Factbook, the ethnic constitution of Barbados is, "black 93%, white 3.2%, mixed 2.6%, East Indian 1%, other 0.2% (2000 census)." The literacy rate is 99.7%. Drinking water and sanitation facility access is 100%. The ethnic constitution of the Bahamas is, "black 85%, white 12%, Asian and Hispanic 3%.". The literacy rate is 95.6%. Drinking water access is 98%, and sanitation facility access is 100%.

    Also remember that Afro-Caribbean populations have higher West African admixture levels than African-American populations, on average, and Barbados an exceptionally high West African admixture level.

    Skin pigmentation, biogeographical ancestry and admixture mapping: "The sample of African Americans from Washington D.C. shows a significantly higher European contribution than the African Caribbean sample from Britain (18.6%±1.5% vs 10.2%±1.4%)."

    Admixture and Population Stratification in African Caribbean Populations: "Here we used a panel of 28 AIMs to examine the genetic ancestry of 298 individuals of African descent from the Caribbean islands of Jamaica, St. Thomas and Barbados. Differences in global admixture were observed, with Barbados having the highest level of West African ancestry (89.6% ± 2.0) and the lowest levels of European (10.2% ± 2.2) and Native American ancestry (0.2% ± 2.0), while Jamaica possessed the highest levels of European (12.4% ± 3.5) and Native American ancestry (3.2% ± 3.1)."

    Barbados has higher West African admixture levels than Jamaica, which is poorer and less developed. The population of Barbados also has higher West African admixture levels than U.S. African-American populations.

    How can this be reconciled with the genetic determinism espoused by the OP and others in this thread?

    You live in Italy? Are you aware of the prevalence of North African admixture in the Italian population, and the various technological benefits that centuries of Berber occupation had on Corsica, Sardinia, and Sicily?
     
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    You bring up a very good point.

    Tiny, black, island nations swamped with rich tourists seem to bring their black majority populations to near-first world standards of living. The Bahamas are less than 300,000 people, but spread out over an island chain 600 miles long. Due to their reliance on tourism, small island blacks do a good job of policing themselves, at least around the tourist areas. Of course better behavior out of self-interest will eventually reap economic and social dividends.


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    The claim, or at least the very strong insinuation, of the OP is that people of sub-Saharan African descent are genetically determined to lack the intellectual capacities to "police themselves."

    Merely having access to coastal island scenery doesn't guarantee economic success through tourism, or Haiti would be known as a tropical paradise.

    Even having a long track record of successful tourism isn't sufficient, or Puerto Vallarta would be as popular a visitors' destination as ever, rather than threatened by narcotics-related violence.

    The fact that there are such significant disparities between genetically similar populations, or circumstances in which the supposedly genetically inferior population (the Afro-Caribbeans with higher levels of African admixture than African-Americans) has produced greater stability and success on various socioeconomic indicators than their supposed betters, is evidence that genetic determinism is false.
     
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    Why would be people need to react differently if there is no official poverty to solve?

    Why didn't the Romans have the same problem after inventing the dole?
     
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    Haiti, with 10 million inhabitants (On an island that can sustain 2.5 mil at most nonetheless), does not fit into the "tiny black nation" category.
     
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    The country of Barbados is approximately 166 square miles in size, with a population of several hundred thousand.

    The city of Detroit is approximately 140 square miles in size, with a population of several hundred thousand.

    If West African ancestry causes inclinations towards crime and squalor, then why would Barbados, with a higher percentage of African descent (both as a portion of the total population and in terms of admixture levels), have lower levels of both than Detroit?
     
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    You are comparing apples to oranges. You can't compare the Black Republic of Detroit with small Caribbean island nations awash in tourist dough. Also, you can't overstate the importance of the 5-10% white, Indian and Asian minorities on these small islands for keeping things in line.

    Import and excise duties, taxes, tariffs, cruise ship and hotel fees really add up. I have been to the Bahamas several times, you should see how much it costs to import a car, TV or washing machine there. They gouge the average islander, but the Bahamas are a very clean and safe environment considering who inhabits them. They must be doing something right!
     
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    The maintenance of successful tourism implies sufficient internal stability to keep a destination attractive. Puerto Vallarta is no longer safe enough to be a prime tourist destination, for example. If African blacks were genetically prone to "astronomically high crime rates," they would cause instability that would make Barbados similarly endangered.

    Barbados is "black 93%, white 3.2%, mixed 2.6%, East Indian 1%, other 0.2% (2000 census)."

    The acting Governor-General is Elliott Belgrave.

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    The Prime Minister is Freundel Stuart.

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    If genetic determinism was true, the supposedly innate tendencies of sub-Saharan Africans towards crime and squalor would not be changed by taxes and fees. Isn't that the genetic determinist argument against African-Americans' use of welfare?
     
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    Why not? It only supports my contention that racism is mostly for drama queens since it may not even exist in modern times, but for our lack of morals regarding true witness bearing to our own laws and actually solving official poverty instead of merely paying for a War on Poverty for over thirty years and getting racism for free as a result.
     
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