“Death to Christianity”

I did not ask you about unicorns......I asked you to prove your earlier statement about the Bible being fiction. The Bible does not say Mary was impregnated by a ghost. And it also never said she remained a virgin. The more you speak, the more you show how ignorant of the Bible you are that you are criticizing...which is a bit amusing.

 

Ah, so you're claiming the story of Ezekiel ascending to heaven in a flaming chariot is not fiction, but a fact? Words fail me.

'...she was found with child of the Holy Ghost'. Matthew 1:18

 

Pls , do not distort what I've said , .do not tell lies - its unchristian - "Thou shall not bear false witness " etc. If you claim being a christian then behave like one.

What I said was the bible is a mixture of fact + fiction , IMO more fiction than facts.

History has an endless list of phoney prophets/ crystal ball fortune tellers, charlatans/witch doctors , CLAIRVOYANTS . + guys like Nostrodamus + Mad Madge .

Did your bible foretell the Wall Street banking shares collapse - the demise of Enron , Lehman Bros collapse , the multi=million dollar housing foreclosures leaving tens of thousands to lose their homes . ? Any mention of which stocks to buy ? or the winner of tomorrow's horse race at Doncaster LOL


btw - who wrote your Bible ? + foretold " things that is yet to come " ?? - (serious - I'd like to know who do you believe is the author of yr Bible ?



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Most Jews dont care a fig whether Jesus (a Greek name) ever existed, some say his miracles was that of a trickster.magician. However as you're such a loyal -subservient , gullible - Non-Chosen " see what many Jews like Rabbi Josef Ovadia + company think of your kind :

"The sole purpose of non-Jews is to serve Jews, according to Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, the head of Shas’s Council of Torah Sages and a senior Sephardi adjudicator.

“Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel,” he said in his weekly Saturday night sermon on the laws regarding the actions non-Jews are permitted to perform on Shabbat."


http://www.jpost.com/JewishWorld/JewishNews/Article.aspx?id=191782

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Rabbi Ovadia has the courage to speak out and say what most Jews think of Goyim , but under present political climate, refrain from saying it.

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Do you really believe that these racist trolls are Christians?

Everybody can pretend to be a Christian and speak in the name of Christians in a forum.

There are some trolls in this forum who claim to be German Christians, but they cannot speak German like Germans do!

If there are really Christians that support Zionism, then these "Christians" will burn in the hell together with their Zionist-Jewish masters!

 

No, that is not true.

There were no Jews 2000. years ago, there were only Hebrew Israelites.

Jews are the spiritual descendants of the Pharisees, and only the adherents of Talmudic Judaism (mostly descendants of converts) can be called Jews, and these Jews have nothing to do with the Semitic Hebrews that existed 2000 years ago.

If you read the word "Jew" in the Old Testament, then it refers to ALL Hebrews.

When Jesus mentions the Jews, he ONLY refers to Pharisees.

The English translation of the Bible is not accurate, you have to read the real Orthodox Bible if you want to know the truth!

 

All the hostile generalizations expressed by some against a group of people (Arabs, Muslims, Jews, etc) is not a characteristic that the new testament endorses.

 

That's true - ](thx for reminding me -wink)

I've not read the Jewish Bible but I'm reliably told by more learned scholars that Jews are not mentioned .


None of the legendary characters , from King David to the prophets, were called ‘the Jews’.

This ethnonym appears for the first and only time in the Bible in the Persian story of the very late Book of Esther. The self-identification of the Jews with the tribes of Israel and with the" heroes "of the Bible is as valid as the story of Rome being founded by the Trojan prince Aeneas- the myths of Romulas + Remus.

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Stop whining about the Quran and read the talmud (http://talmudunmasked.com). "Jews" are all Christian countries' most immediate threat. Prove me wrong.

 

All three religious texts have controversial writing and not all believers believe in the same things. There are many nice Jews who haven't harmed anyone. Do you seriously believe that this Jew is a "threat"?

 

OH Yes - she's a "threat" to any red blooded young man. Most pretty girls , ( irrespective of race /religion etc )- are.

Enough to drive a young man insane.

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Were you an eye witness of the account to know that it never happened as it is stated in the Bible?

Just because something is impossible for you does not mean that it is impossible to happen. If someone back in those days told someone that men would one day land on the moon, do you think they would believe? How many would believe in things like computers, cars, electricity, electric light and so on?

So like I said, unless you were there and was an eye witness to the even anything you say on that subject has no value to me?

 

The bible was not written contemporaneously with any alleged events-in many cases parts were written many decades later, thus any accounts contained therein are second, third or fourth-hand, and rumour or hearsay at best. I guess you were not around at the time either...
I can no more 'prove' the veracity of the bible than you can. However, if you sincerely believe that chariots can fly through the air until they get to 'heaven' (wherever that is), you're welcome to your belief. I prefer to work with rationality.

 

To start with, Christians are about the only ones supporting Israel and have been since 1948 so I have big doubts that the perpetrators are Jewish. I would more say it's someone trying to stir up trouble between the Christians and the Israelis.

 

I'm sorry to disagree with you Art, but Jew was a slang name attached to the Israelis by the Romans after the largest area called Judea.

 

Not true;

2 Kings 16:6 2 Kings 25:25, Dan 3:8,
- Jew -- one who belonged to the kingdom of Juda,

2 Kings 18:26 -
Jew's language -- Jewishly, in the Jewish tongue

Jer 32:12, 38:19, Nea 1:2, 3:33, 4:6, Est 2:5, 3:4, 5:13
after the Hebrew captivity it was applied to any Israeli

Dan. 13:12
- Jews --occuring in plural

With hundreds of references if you want them all.

New Testement;

Matt. 2:2

-Jews -- Belonging to the Jewish race


with hundreds of references if you want them.

 

You are only giving me your opinion....nothing more. I have proven it for myself that it is true and there is nothing you or anyone can say that will convince me otherwise.

 

The bible is an opinion.

 

Is that your opinion or are you stating something that is proven to be true?

 

It is mostly proven. There are some old scrolls and ruins which support some claims made in the bible, but most of what is written is unproven or theories which cannot be proven. All religious texts are like that. It's the message which matters to the believer, not the evidence supporting the claims.

 

Unproven is not the same as opinion. Before those scrolls were discovered all of the Bible was considered questionable by its critics.....until more and more evidence began to emerge over time. And as time continues I am sure more evidence will be discovered that will validate more of the Bible. The Bible is going to be proven to be the most accurate and reliable book known to man.


You see true Christians unlike unbelievers don't need some physical evidence to make them believe the Bible is true......the Bible is a book of faith. But it is not human faith or blind faith....it is the faith of God. What I am saying is foreign to you and you are unable to relate or identify with it. I might as well be speaking to you in a foreign language.

 

What have you proven? Absolutely nothing! It is historical FACT that the Bible was concocted decades after the alleged events took place. The last book of the NT was written nearly a century after Jesus' death...

http://www.allabouttruth.org/when-was-the-bible-written-faq.htm
http://www.biblica.com/bibles/faq/3/

 

Finding a Harry Potter first draft 2000 years after it was written doesn't make the book any less fictional.
The discovery of the scrolls proved nothing.

 

Fer feks sake - plonker - go back and read my post . I said the JEWISH Bible - i.e Torah , not the - Christian - English version of it.




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Hahahaha so you proved it to YOURSELF that its is true , did you ?


The world's Psychiatric Wards are full of people who believe they've "proved " all sorts of weird things to themselves.

Keep taking your medication .

Never mind I hope you dont infect your children. .

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