‘A perfect storm’: US facing hunger crisis as demand for food banks soars no

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  1. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Totally false, there are many good paying jobs out there, all it takes to get one is a willingness to work, and couple years of trade school which many times will be sponsored by the persons future employer.

    The real problem is too many people want indoor jobs where one doesn't have to break a sweat or put up with inclement weather.
     
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    A living wage is living withing what ones wage will support, no one deserves money for nothing other than existing.
     
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    Many of them don't just promote it, they live it, and want to guilt the rest of us down to their level.
     
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    Out of one side of your mouth you talk construction and middle class wages and out of the other side you mention offshoring, please explain how construction jobs are off shored.

    Are they building homes in China and flying them over to be set on premade Chinese pads?
     
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    No kidding they got tired of being starved by the Democrats and wanted things to be great again.
     
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    Unemployment insurance is paid by the employer not the employee.
     
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    yes, and that is why it's called a living wage, why is the right so against people being paid a living wage
     
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    People are not against a living wage, the problem is being forced to pay people a wage, they do not deserve, just by calling it a living wage.

    If a person is not pulling down a living wage, that is not the employers problem to solve, that is the employees problem to solve.
     
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    Not reading this whole thread, too many of the "LW Brain Trust" blathering out absurdities, non sequiturs and fallacies in it.

    To the topic, sure, there will be strain on food banks due to the "coincidence" that people too lazy to work are some how also too lazy to obtain cook inexpensive food (surprise surprise!), of which there is ABUNDANCE in the U.S., but as far as the overall food supply? Nah. One thing modern GMO agriculture is OUTSTANDING at is keeping huge populations from starving, nutrition? not so much. But no one is going to be going legitimately hungry in the U.S.

    One of my hobbies for years is how cheaply I can eat a healthy diet. My -luxury- diet is currently $300 a month including supplements. My subsistence but nutritious diet? well under $100. Food Stamps were about $150-175 per person last I checked. I go to 4-5 different grocery stores when shopping. In even the upper scale stores, only 10% or so of the shoppers are in the produce section.

    One large bag of beans, one large bag of rice, seasonings, inexpensive multivitamins/couple of supplements. You WILL survive, and survive well, probably MORE healthy after 30 days, will not be hungry in the least, and on $50. Add another $20 month or so for cheap white meat like pork tenderloin, eggs, and some cruciferous vegetables and you may live forever :)
     
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    If you think you can offshooffshore middle class jobs to sweat shops and instead of having to work in the low wage servant service sector. that they can all be plumbers or electricians or mechanics you are naive.

    We have a service sector economy because that is where most of the jobs are! And that is because we offshored our good jobs to sweat shops in places that have dirt poor under corrupt govts or communist govts.

    Americans will do those dirty jobs that pay enough to live on. If you dont believe that watch reruns of Dirty Jobs with mike Rowe. .

    A service sector based economy does not and will not create nor sustain a middle class no matter how much you blame Americans who have to work those jobs. Our largest employer is walmart for gods sake And people dont work there for their living wages !. They work because they must work. And then draw food stamps to eat .

    Since this scheme if greed driven globalism the upper 10 percent are the only ones seeing wages increased whereas once upon a time the lower middle and middle middle class were rewarded for increases in productivity. Ever hear of income creep of the 1960s? Probably before your time ?
     
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    Uh huh. Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Kentucky, West Virginia, Indiana ... we Democratic states that suddenly voted Republican.
     
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    Hardly service sector jobs are low IQ low education jobs worked largely by immigrants many of whom are double dipping on welfare and public housing.

    Another lie, right now there are tens of thousands of good paying jobs going unfilled because they cannot find people with the skills to do the job or a work ethic to complete the job.

    I don't need to watch reruns of Dirty Jobs, I assisted in getting a few of those into production, I have worked a number of "dirty jobs" in my lifetime some of which have been produced into episodes of Dirty Jobs.

    Lets see, at 17 I was living on the street, unemployed, sleeping in my car, a friend of mine helped me get a job at an auto parts store, I started at $1.75 per hour, it wasn't much, but I could afford to eat a couple of meals a day on it.

    Then I noticed a job in the paper for a welder at a company called Waste Management, I had learned that trade at 12 taught by a friend of mines dad, he being a welder by trade, insisted all his boys learn to weld, I was included in that list, by 15, I was very proficient in SMAW.

    I applied for the job, now keep in mind I was 17, a middle school dropout, living in a car, working at a parts store for $1.75 an hour and hating life.

    The lady at the plant looked at my application and told me to wait outside where I was met by a guy old enough to be my father and what some might call a redneck, he commented you didn't complete school, where did you learn to weld, I explained, he looked at me strangely, a skinny blonde haired kid with hair halfway down his back.

    He told me to follow him into the shop, he showed me a trash dumpster laying on it's side with a large tear in the bottom, he pointed at it and stated fix that, over there is a torch and over there is a welder, I'll be back in a while.

    I agreed to fix the dumpster, as he was walking away I noticed he was watching me walk to me car, probably thinking I was going to drive away, I opened the trunk and got out a long sleeve shirt, my welding hood and some well worn gloves, I took off my T-shirt, let my hair hang down my back and put on the long sleeve shirt over it.

    A little while later I had the dumpster repaired, now welding is a no fun job anytime of the year in South Florida, but in a rinsed out dumpster, that had contained garbage being burned red hot, hammered and welded in the middle of summer becomes a job that requires a strong stomach and some skill and a lot of sweat, vertical SMAW is not easy to do, but the metal was thick and that helped a bit.

    My work was inspected and I was hired, for wage over 10X the $1.60 1970 prevailing minimum wage.

    So don't give me any BS that one can not do well as a Tradesman or Craftsman in the U.S., if someone is stuck in a low paying service job, that is either because they are stupid or lazy, no excuses.

    Trades are easy to learn and most provide paid OJT, yea you get in the door not making much, but if you work hard and learn fast, the good money comes quickly.
     
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    then they can do it themselves if they do not feel they deserve a living wage, simple, no one forcing them to hire someone to do the work

    funny how many of these the right don't want to earn a living wage are now known as the essential workers they really are
     
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