‘The guys on the far right’ are not happy with Trump’s DACA decision

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  1. AtsamattaU

    AtsamattaU Well-Known Member

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    Who's better tuned into the views of the Trumpettes, Steve Bannon or Trump himself? According to Bannon,
    Any time Bannon starts with "Trust me," get ready for a whopper. But this quote shows that Bannon now considers "the conservative side" synonymous with neo-nationalists. It's bad enough this coterie of dirtbags took over the GOP. Let's hope they lose the battle for the title "conservative."

    http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...-the-far-right-are-not-happy-with-trumps-daca
     
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    The guys on the Far Right aren't to happy with Trumps DACA decision.....to bad. So sad, tell them open up a Glad Bag.....and No I didn't mean one with Kush.
     
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    Someone on the left needs to drop a crumb trail. I keep losing track when Bannon is relevant and when he isn't.
     
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    He's always been relevant to understanding the neo-nationalist movement that got Trump elected. The question now is whether he knows Trump's supporters better than Trump does.
     
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    He doesn't give any details. Such as, what did they want him to do?

    IMO Trump did the right thing by sending it back to Congress. It was set to expire anyway. Obama enacted it to give Congress some time to put together an Immigration Reform bill/plan. They didn't. Now they have to.
     
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    Too bad so sad for who, the neo-nationalists? If Trump loses those core supporters, who would you say remains in his base? What about the lie Trump told saying that he would end DACA "on day one" if elected?
     
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    Most people can distinguish campaign bluster and exaggeration for emphasis. Obviously, Trump is ending DACA.

    Enjoy your sour grapes.
     
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    So the alleged 'far right' is unhappy with Trump overturning an unconstitutional Executive Action by Obama?
     
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    He doesn't need to give details - Trump promised to "immediately terminate" DACA during the campaign. Obviously he said anything to get elected, but surely some people believed him.

    The funny thing about sending the decision to Congress is that if Congress does pass a bill protecting childhood arrivals, it means yet another win for Obama.
     
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    What do you mean? He's keeping it in place for six more months. Pretty weak if you ask me.
     
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    With the option for Congress to keep it in place. Who will be eating the sour grapes when that happens?
     
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    Trump promised a lot of things during his campaign that the smart people knew were bullshit.

    Congress will more than likely pass a bill to protect the Dreamers, which will privately make the Trump supporters cry, but they won't publicly criticize their messiah. That's a no-no.
     
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    He didn't overturn it. He kept it firmly in place and tossed it at Congress.
     
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    Totally untrue and you know it. Trump was elected by people from all demographics that wanted something different in the White House. Hillary was the perfect opposition candidate to make that happen.
     
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    When a Constitutionally mandated process is actually responsible for it for the first time?

    I don't think you know or support how this is actually supposed to work. You just want what you think is right to be made law, and don't really care the mechanism used to ensure it.
     
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    You must have forgot all those Blue Dog Democrats that voted for Trump and gave him the win. All those White Union Workers. You know......the ones the Demos call Low Information voters.

    Is there a link to Trump saying he would end DACA on day one. As I never heard that and only that he was going to end BO peeps special package on day one.
     
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    Meh, a complaint about 6 months instead of removing it. Weak tea.
     
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    Where it belongs. Is there a problem with that?
     
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    Not at all. I've posted repeatedly that it belongs with Congress. That, however, does not change the fact that Trump did not, as you said, overturn DACA.
     
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    Oh snap! Besides, even if you disagree with the indisputable facts that katzgar linked, I'm referring to the fact that a small but committed group of neo-nationalists supported Trump consistently through the GOP primaries, even though most Republicans supported the other candidates through most of the campaign. Those neo-nationalists essentially took over the Republican party and shat on it with the presidential nominee Donald Trump. In the general election, many nominal Republicans voted for their party's candidate not realizing how incompetent he is and how disastrous having him in office would be. A bunch of disillusioned working-class Democrats also voted for him because they thought he'd bring back jobs at factories and coal mines (lol).

    If the neo-nationalists hadn't hijacked the Republican party, we'd have a respectable Republican president right now. Instead we have this nimrod.
     
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    I did not forget them, but they do not make up his base. I agree they voted for him, but all they care about is Trump's promises for jobs. They're pretty disgusted by Trump's behavior in general, and they're going to be pissed in another year when their coal mining and factory jobs remain nothing more than an unfulfilled promise.
    "We will immediately terminate President Obama’s two illegal executive amnesties, in which he defied federal law and the constitution to give amnesty to approximately 5 million illegal immigrants." http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/donald-trump-immigration-address-transcript-227614

    He said the same thing at his campaign launch.
     
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    Why not just call it a "populist" movement, and give yourself some credibility for a change. Or a "nationalist" movement if you so insist. Making up contrived names makes you look so petty and partisan.

    Regarding Bannon, I think he was more of a tag-on than an actual policy maker on the Trump team. But I suspect both Bannon and Trump saw eye-to-eye on most things, or else Bannon wouldn't have tagged-on to begin with, and Trump wouldn't have let him tag-on.

    Each know their base, but Bannon is more ideological, and Trump more practical, which is why Trump is far more likely to play both sides of the aisle, which he is obviously doing with DACA.
     
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    Trump just Tweeted he will NOT deport DACA folks
     
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    Just because you aren't informed about the neo-nationalist movement doesn't mean I made it up. It just means you're ill-informed.
    If Bannon wants to torpedo Trump's base he can do it. It was a shaky coalition of voters who put him in office, and many of them didn't understand what scumbags they were aligning themselves with.
     
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