“ Trump warns of ‘potential death and destruction’ if he’s indicted”

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    Trump warns of ‘potential death and destruction’ if he’s indicted”
    “Former President Trump argued early Friday morning that filing charges against him could result in “potential death & destruction” as he railed against the possibility of an indictment by the Manhattan district attorney.”

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...ential-death-and-destruction-if-hes-indicted/


    “Trump calls for removal of every top official investigating him”
    “President Trump on Thursday called for the removal of every law enforcement official currently leading investigations into him.”

    https://thehill.com/regulation/cour...oval-of-every-top-official-investigating-him/

    Is this really the type of rhetoric America needs today? Type of rhetoric coming directly from a Presidential candidate? What does it tell us about the character of the individual espousing such views?

    And I suppose if one of Trump’s zealots take his utterances to heart and winds up hurting another we will hear that the above are “perfect statements,” and no where state Trump hods any responsibility
     
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    MelshieMaze Well-Known Member

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    If he's serious then he is and always will be the worst thing to happen to modern American politics ever. And that's including the Iraq War.
     
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    He's probably right. If he's indicted for anything, some of his terrorist supporters will do their thing.
     
  4. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What is that saying?

    Oh, right. "Put up, or shut up."

    Seems applicable.
     
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    MelshieMaze Well-Known Member

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    If we've got people ready to start fires and bring on that death destruction because he's indicted, then TDS has already gotten out of control, much like a prostitute with cold sores.
     
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    As if I needed another reason to loathe Trump.
    I know the Trump supporters get sick of seeing these types of posts, and I understand why (I think), but at some point, what exactly is someone supporting a person like this as any kind of leader for?
    Here's something I like to keep in mind: anytime someone wants to condemn or ridicule "others", it's usually a control tool, meant to deceive, and should be shunned. Trump is a physical embodiment of that attitude.
    The sooner he has no influence over anyone the better. We, as a group, do have that control and power. Trump only has power that is handed to him by us, as a group.
     
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    Conservatives should look to the example of Israel in terms of what the Trump party is planning for us. Just like Bibi, a power grab. If Trump will be elected in 2024, I bet the first thing he will do is to make sure that he can't be investigated. He'll abuse the judiciary for his personal gain, just like Bibi is doing. Does it matter that the Israel Supreme Court told him: NO? Probably not. Bibi will use the support of his extremist voters to keep himself in power. And Israeli democracy will be eroded by one little cut at a time. Do we want this here in the US? I don't, but I am not so sure about trump supporters.
     
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    It has been FAR from a "nothing burger"

    The two impeachments, for example, any person with a pair of eyes can see that the Democrats proved their case that Trump should have been removed from office. It was the cowardly Republicans in the Senate that refused to do their job and actually vote to do it is the reason he wasn't removed.

    They have gotten MULTIPLE indictments, they have had people go to prison. It just hasn't been Trump.

    As the old saying goes, "Where there is smoke there is fire". The fact that Trump has had more members of his inner circle indicted and/or convicted then any President since at least Nixon should show any reasonable person that Trump is one shady individual.
     
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    Cool. Now we can dismiss any investigation into Hunter Biden's laptop as a partisan witch hunt. Are you game?
     
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    LOL... no "If's" required...

    His insane ramblings aside, THIS is the image that this stage of his degeneration will be known for (I'll not post it on PF.com, because I'm not a complete pyschopath)

    https://nypost.com/2023/03/24/trump-shares-pic-holding-baseball-bat-near-das-head/

    If that's not a direct threat to a public official, that concept is no longer applicable... Threatening Trump's personal safety is now perfectly OK...
     
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    I think there are at least some who have been convinced that Trump is the only answer to the "evil others" so that no matter how bad Trump is, there is something worse to be feared.
    Social media, the internet and 24 hour "news" cycles have only fed this, not to mention good old fashioned laziness.
     
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    Prove it.

    It's not difficult.

    Get the indictment, get a guilty verdict.

    Running around talking about the "criminal" and this-and-that about Trump means absolutely nothing in the real world with a conviction.

    What's taking so long?
     
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    The first investigation, or the 28th?
     
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    Never in the 200+ year history of this country has an ex President ever faced a criminal indictment. This is something that has be done absolutely right to PREVENT the very things Trump supporters are saying the process is causing.
     
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    Again, the criminal investigations into Trump didn't start until after he left office. I'm sorry this fact is inconvenient for your agenda.
     
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    I have noticed there's a lot more Trump supporters here than other places, but dude if there's this many threads mocking or giving the proverbial finger to Trump and/or Trump sympathizers, then there's probably a reason for it.

    He's not in the news every single day for no reason...
     
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    Where is the conviction!?

    Which is similar to an arrest... means nothing regarding guilt.

    Oh here we go. Have zero proof, zero indictments, zero convictions..... but it's obvious.

    No, that's not how it works.

    Fantasy land. Proved in so much.... that he wasn't removed from office? What is it like in the land of unicorns?

    Oh, you mean the legislative process.

    The legislative process, the judicial process... they are all failing because they haven't satisfied the TDS crowd.

    Um. Ok.

    Maybe that helps you validate your position, but in the real world that isn't how it works.

    And wasting millions of dollars and time chasing down smoke endlessly without the ability to find fire just looks silly.

    Shady? Is that the standard now?

    Good grief.
     
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    There have been lots of indictments and convictions of his allies in those investigations. It's not good to let people, even powerful people, get away with crimes. Plenty of pending investigations and we don't know where they'll go yet. Too early for either side to crow, and don't complain about them being meticulous and careful before they indict. I'm sure both sides would rather it be taken care of sooner than later, but the more important thing is to get it right. If indictments don't happen, don't confuse insufficient evidence with exoneration. And don't confuse insufficient evidence in the end with a wrongful investigation. Those things are not equivalent.
     
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    The aspiring dictator is threatening to release the violent Orange Horde.
     
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    Seems to be really close to a criminal threat, in my non-legal expert opinion.
     
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    TRaitor tRump is a drug addled (Adderall) messianic, narcissistic, psychopath.
     
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    The PARTISAN legislative process. The impeachment process was put into the Constitution to ensure that an out of control President could be held accountable, and removed if necessary. What it failed to take into account was the political aspect of it.

    There have been four impeachments in the history of this country and the Trump impeachments had more members of his own party vote to remove him than any other. Some Republicans actually have principals.

    As far as the judicial process, Trump has not faced a jury yet...but don't worry, it will happen.



     
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    It becomes a lot more difficult when the DA has to be concerned for the physical safety of himself and his staff from supporters of a psycho former POTUS...
     
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    My horde of single wide living, Newsmax watching thugs will beat you up if you indict me!!!!!
     
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    The irrational factional hate and "ridicule" directed at Trump only serves to expand his base of support and influence. By now almost all ordinary Americans know that Trump, in spite of all his faults, was one of our better presidents -- a moderate liberal businessman engaged in a monumental struggle with a corrupt bipartisan ruling political class that virtually all Americans have come to despise over recent decades.

    “But these powerful words, and other important moves Trump has made on his Asian trip, have received relatively little attention in America this week. Instead, we’ve been inundated with mocking tweets and snarky headlines about Trump’s golf tangent, his manner of feeding koi fish, and his knowledge of the Japanese auto industry. This quickness to pile on the president, at the expense of policy analysis, illustrates a growing problem on the left. Liberals and their media allies are becoming knee-jerk anti-Trumpists, always on the lookout for the president’s next embarrassing, meme-able gaffe—and sometimes pouncing without getting their facts straight.

    The most important act of Trump’s Asia trip thus far, judging merely by the sheer volume of media attention, was his visit to a koi pond with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe. The photograph atop this article went viral, as Trump was variously accused of disrespecting local customs, perpetrating a fatal overfeeding, and generally being graceless.”

    “Complaints about “gotcha journalism” are probably as old as journalism itself, but before the internet, there was at least time for fact-checkers to review the entire video or read the full quote. Today, in the social-media age, users race to be first with humor or outrage—the truth be damned.

    Vikram Paralkar @VikramParalkar
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    That sets off a second mad dash: among the media, which knows liberal clickbait when it sees it. And once again, the truth suffers.”
    THE NEW REPUBLIC, Liberals Are Becoming Knee-Jerk Anti-Trumpists, BY JEET HEER, November 10, 2017.
    https://newrepublic.com/article/145731/liberals-becoming-knee-jerk-anti-trumpists

    Want to beat Trump? Offer serious opposition with credible proposals that would lift up, enrich and empower the victims of our now very Big Bad Government.

    “TOPLINE Only 27% of Americans have a great deal of confidence in 14 major American institutions on average, a record low since 1979 and a 5% drop from 2021, according to a poll conducted by Gallup, which found sharp declines in trust for the three branches of the federal government, the presidency, the Supreme Court and Congress.”
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