12yr. old shot by police in Cleveland (another toy gun)....

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  1. JonathanBlu

    JonathanBlu Member Past Donor

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    No I probably wouldn't, but that wouldn't make it any less true. Regardless, what do my actions or feelings about what my kids may or may not do in the future have to do with the fact that if you pull a gun on a cop, you will be shot. I am not going to stop repeating this because it will never stop being true.
     
  2. JonathanBlu

    JonathanBlu Member Past Donor

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    Having a gun and pulling a gun on a cop are two different things.
     
  3. Tahuyaman

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    I suspect that may be the case. But I would guess that even he / she knows that is a false assumption, or else the accusation would have been made out of the box on this one.

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    No bias there, huh?
     
  4. Hairball

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    Where is your evidence to back up your ridiculous claim that he "pulled a gun on a cop".
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Many kids aren't taught that. They shouldn't have to pay with their lives.
     
  6. JonathanBlu

    JonathanBlu Member Past Donor

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    How about every single news article that is reporting on this story?
     
  7. Tahuyaman

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    Uh.... You did read the article detailing the events, didn't you?
     
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    None whatsoever. There was no reasonable grounds for the police to even confront the child, let alone slaughter him in cold blood.

    It's the people who irrationally believe pigs should be above the law who are biased.
     
  9. Tahuyaman

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    They don't "pay with their life" because they are taught that. They pay with their life because they are not taught that. They pay with their life because they are taught something else.

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    Again, no bias there, huh?
     
  10. JonathanBlu

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    Care to elaborate on that?
     
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    Ignoring the running around pointing what looked like a real gun at people....
     
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    Nobody is shocked that you live in a cushy well protected gated community. Hence your anti gun anti cop stance.
     
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    I believe the police are there to enforce the law and need to be held to a higher standard than the rest. I have a distrust for all authority, but I still can respect that authority and treat them with enough respect to stay out of trouble.
     
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    So ignore the 911 calls?
     
  15. JonathanBlu

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    https://abcnews.go.com/US/video-police-shooting-boy-toy-gun-released/story?id=27198246
    "An officer gave the boy an order three times to "show your hands" before shooting him, Tomba said. Loehmann, 26, a rookie who joined the force in March, fired the fatal shot, a police spokesperson said. Garmback, 46, had been an officer since 2008."

    http://www.firstcoastnews.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/24/12-year-old-boy-shot-by-police/19473511/
    "Police shot Rice after he reached into his waistband for the gun."

    http://newswire.net/newsroom/news/0...-boy-didn-t-point-his-toy-gun-to-officer.html
    "The police report says two officers approached Rice at the playground and told him to raise his hands. Instead, the kid reached for his toy gun and one of the officers shoot him twice."

    That took less than 3 minutes.
     
  16. Riot

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    Just last week an officer here in my small town of houma La. A police was called about teens playing in an abandon house. The policeman went there. Knock on the door and a teen opened the door with a air soft pistol. Tip painted over. The policeman turned and shot the kid dead.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cameron...-allegedly-shot-and-killed-a-14-year-old-boy/
    Where is your outrage here?
    No Al Sharpton here.
    You know why?
    The policeman was black.
    Where is your outrage here?
    Are you sick and tired of the black on black juvenile carnage????!!!!!
    Hypocrite much?
     
  17. RP12

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    Seems the #Blacklivesmatter only if a white person kills them... If a Black kills a Black no one seems to give a damn.
     
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    Right, because all children have good parents and no children have cognitive problems.
     
  19. anomaly

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    It's about ignorance and insensitivity... and I'm shocked that these are such difficult concepts to those that are so well versed in them.
     
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    Making this about racism it what is ignorant. Claming people are "insensitive" and "ignorant" is making the thread about posters and not the topic. Against forum rules. If you do not want to discuss the topic dont post. And sure as hell dont involve me in your games and flamebait.
     
  21. JonathanBlu

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    It's not about that, it never was. You keep trying to make it about that, but that's not what it's about. It's about a boy who got shot because he made a mistake, and that mistake cost him his life. Calling people ignorant and insensitive is not going to bring him back, it's not going to send that cop to jail, and it's certainly not going to further whatever argument you are trying push on everyone.
     
  22. anomaly

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    Let's keep it simple...

    The cop was an adult.

    The victim was a kid.

    Perhaps the burden of a peaceful resolution belonged to the adult not the kid in this instance.

    And perhaps... just maybe... if it were your kid you would not be so quick to shout the mantra that the adult in this situation bears no responsibility for the death caused by the adult.

    Perhaps if it were your kid you might want a few questions answered before the forum boards explode with support for the adult who killed a kid.
     
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    The only issues I have currently are with adults killing children no matter what the reason.
     
  24. JonathanBlu

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    Can you please elaborate on your earlier post? It would seem that you are implying that it is the cop's fault that the kid did not know better than to pull a gun on a police officer. However I do not want to make assumptions as to what point it was you were trying to get across.
     
  25. anomaly

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    This was a child.

    Like it or not this child didn't pull a gun on the adult he pulled a toy.

    The adult killed a child.

    This is bad policing no matter how much you want it to not be.
     

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