13 week old bouncing around inside womb

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Focusing just on the perspective of the life that is never going to be, I guess any time is too late.

    But then there is also the woman's well-being to take into consideration. We note that you don't seem to focus on that much.
     
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    Let’s start with “add two weeks”. Gestational age is different from foetal age ergo you are talking of not a 13 week pregnancy but a fifteen week. Second it is Tim Tok so probably fake Third didn’t show up for me anyway
     
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    What? It looks alive to me. Kind of cute too. Very exciting to see.
     
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    I agree. Under normal circumstance that would be an exciting thing for parents. Did you note, though, that this is an abortion thread?
     
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    They, in that TikTok, aren't getting an abortion so it's still cute instead of horrifying but good point. Hate to see a living unborn person kicking around in there knowing they might get torn from limb to limb and suctioned out.
     
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    Adult women make up half the voter population and are more than capable in defending themselves. I makes more sense to spend more time and concern with the large population of individuals who can neither defend themselves via vote word or by ability aka not adult.
     
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    I like the idea of that, including after the birth of the child. At that point infants and children seem to have the historic tendency to be forgotten by the Right...
     
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    I don't watch TikTok. Agree it's not a pleasant topic.
     
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    All the people I know, including myself, that have adopted are republican/conservative so I am not seeing that claim taking root in my experience and I live in a predominantly liberal/progressive area.
     
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    Movement in video does not prove consciousness. Movements do occur before consciousness. Video does not give useful information for the ethics of abortion.
     
  12. kazenatsu

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    It's totally true. We're getting off-topic but I've seen statistics from the 1990s that showed something like 70% of families who adopt are conservative Christians. A surprisingly disproportionately high number are Jewish as well, like around 9%.
     
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    Do you have any statistics pertaining to voting demographic and abortion? I couldn't find any.
     
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    Yes you're right. She might not like all that kicking.
     
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    And highly probably fake. It’s Tik Tok I’m surprised they didn’t put a ballerina costume on it and synch the movements to Swan Lake
     
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    :roll: Increasingly it is medication given before 12 weeks gestation which would be a 10 week old foetus
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    Medication abortion, since it is more affordable is often done far earlier
     
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    The fetus is too old for that. And it's more than just a fetus at this point.
     
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    Sometimes my brain just switches off and I make mistakes. What I was actually asking for was statistics pertaining to voting demographic and adoption.

    But nevertheless, thank you Bowerbird for the interesting information!
     
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    I think that videos like this can convince someone to carry full term. I am on board with convincing people. I am strongly opposed to using government force.
     
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    Except that it is not real
     
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    I didn't watch, but I remember ultrasound images of my kids. There is a group that provides free ultrasounds to expecting mothers considering abortion. After hearing the heartbeat, many decide to keep the baby.

    I have no issue with convincing people; I cannot accept forcing people. If you don't want an abortion, don't get one. Same with guns and Covid Vax.
     
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    Not many

    considering they were forced to watch the ultrasound. Including those women having an abortion for devastating foetal abnormality were forced to go through the trauma a second time. What happened to a “right to refuse” under those laws
     
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    Who was forced to watch ultrasound?
     
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    It was a law

    https://www.thecut.com/2019/12/forced-ultrasound-abortion-what-its-like.html
    https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/article/mandated-ultrasound-prior-abortion/2014-04
     

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