175 states signing landmark Paris deal on climate change

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What would you expect when you present 'no amount of evidence' other than your repeated logical fallacy?
     
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    Vegas giants Banned

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    Tons and tons of it have been presented but it would never be enough. In the end we don't need to convince you. You can sit with the Bigfoot crowd. Lol
     
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    no, that's incorrect.
     
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    When science fraud is encouraged by scientists scientists become suspects.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Saying it doesn't cut it, you have to actually provide evidence.
     
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    LOL! You keep stomping your feet and clenching your fists white w/impotent rage, but you saying that it's so won't somehow, magically, make it so.

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    I love irony. Esp irony at the intergalactic meathammer level.
     
  7. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not surprised at the childish level of debate you present. Sorry you don't know much about the IPCC.
     
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    So why don't you merely present the evidence that shows your position out of the IPCC AR5 report. Floor is all yours.
     
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    The only thing childish here is you making bare assertions and demanding that they be accepted at face value.

    Sorry, the world doesn't work that way, sunshine.

    The irony is that you can't actually back up your claims, but demand that others do so.

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    I haven't offered a position. I've questioned the statements of others.

    Here's the mic back.
     
  10. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, it is not my problem you don't know much about the IPCC and their mission. It should come as no surprise that AR1 was the first and most logical report until Michael Mann's infamous hockeystick came along that they jumped on for AR2 with no valid reason other than it fit the narrative that is espoused by the IPCC and government. There is also a reason they had to drop it by AR5.
     
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    That's the scary part - those who do not understand the scientific method believe those who corrupt the method. Those who deny the scientific method are indeed the real "deniers." The implications of the IPCC SPM involve trillions of dollars and a reduction of the global standard of living. Why is the IPCC not working diligently to make sure that the AGW alarmist scenario stands up to scientific scrutiny, in other words the role of the IPCC should be to leave no stone unturned in an effort to show that human CO2 emissions will not have an economically adverse effect on the citizens of the world. If that cannot be done then their efforts would be justified. What the IPCC has done is to accept the AGW scenario and worked to prove that it is right by using untestable computer models and then invoking the precautionary principle. The falsification part which forms the backbone of the scientific method has been purposefully eliminated. Those who focus on falsification are labelled deniers by true believers and criminals (RICO statute) by true "tree ring hugger" fanatics.
     
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    sure, thanks for the mic, I didn't say which side of anything you were on. I merely asked you to post up what out of the IPCC report backed your claim.
     
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    Wind farms-good. DDT-bad.

    New administration rule would permit thousands of eagle deaths at wind farms

    The Obama administration is revising a federal rule that allows wind-energy companies to operate high-speed turbines for up to 30 years, even if means killing or injuring thousands of federally protected bald and golden eagles.

    Under the plan announced Wednesday, companies could kill or injure up to 4,200 bald eagles a year without penalty -- nearly four times the current limit.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...mit-thousands-eagle-deaths-at-wind-farms.html
     
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    Hey, it's OK as long as it is for an environmentalist's favorite wet dream, saving the planet. Soylent green anyone?
     
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    Agreed but DDT is also good. The same researcher showed that a deficiency of calcium and DDT resulted in thin egg shells but DDT alone did not. The carcinogen research was also flawed. And as a result ~ 30,000,000 people have died from malaria since DDT was banned.
     
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    That seems to be okay with the environmental movement.
     
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    Collateral damage. The most important factor is that they had the best of intentions. Unfortunately many people have died as the result of those best of intentions.
     

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