2014 Battle for the Senate

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Those who are alienated from America and snivel in such a manner are stupid, and so they rage against the electorate.

    The fact that the best-educated states are overwhelmingly "blue" and the worst-educated" overwhelmingly "red" is as one would expect.
     
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    Prunepicker Well-Known Member

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    Yes, you described the left to a tee. By the way, one can be educated
    and do very stupid things at the same time. Voting for this president
    immediately comes to mind.
     
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  5. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    I can't speak for the President that get you in such a tizzy, but I suffer fools gladly.

    The fact that the best-educated states are overwhelmingly "blue" and the worst-educated overwhelmingly "red" is just the way it is.

    The democratic system is egalitarian, and your imagined elitism and snobbery have no place in it.


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  6. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Of course, and that could be said about any president by any malcontent who hates him and needs to pretend that most people must be stupid for electing him.

    However, in the US, most respect education, and that is why those that don't are so alienated.
     
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    Everything you mentioned has nothing to do with this presidents policies.
    They were self correcting. This would have taken place sooner had he
    not tried to copy fdr's failed polices, which extended the depression. And
    had he cut taxes and spending it would have happened very quickly, which
    is the what has happened every single time.

    To tell the truth, everything isn't getting better. The economy still stinks.
     
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    I don't hate the president and never have. What purpose would that serve?
    I'm not pretending.
    I've attended 5 universities and have diplomas. How does that mean I don't respect
    education except in your alienated world?
     
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    I think the Republicans will take the Senate....and gain a few more seats in the House as well. I believe the enthusiasm of Democrats is gone; the luster and shine of Obama and his lies has gotten old; even for many Democrats. Many of the Senate seats up, went to Romney last time around......and I see nothing that would say they would suddenly flip to Democrats and/or helping Obama out.
     
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    So, you apparently feel that your academic peregrinations and/or one or all of your numerous degrees authorizes you to proclaim Americans "stupid" when they, led by those in the best-educated states, elect candidates that upset you?

    That just doesn't strike me as an especially enlightened attitude.


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  11. Natty Bumpo

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    That's what i have been predicting for quite a while. The 114th Congress will mark the GOP's swan song. They'll lose the presidency and the senate in '16, but their gerrymandered advantage should allow them to retain House control until '20.
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    there is one fact that makes it investable republicans will take over the senate
    republicans only need 6 seats to take over the senate there are 7 sets held by democrats up for reelection in states that was carried by Romney
    do you honestly believe those 7 states will vote for a democrat two years after they voted against Obama
     
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    nope wont happen
    after the republicans take over the senate democrats and Obama will become the obstructionist the hostage takers the party of no they will be the ones shutting down the government attempting to block republican legislation
     
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    I'm not sure if you are imagining that McConnell and Boehner will coordinate attempts to pass health care reform, a comprehensive immigration bill, or any other significant legislation, but it's highly improbable that a fanatical ilk of Democrats will be so flustered that they'll be shutting down Yellowstone in the foreseeable future. As the minority in both branches, they certainly won't be staging any stunts like voting to repeal any laws of the land 54 times.

    In any event, the GOP's ugly TPs vs corporate toadies' battle can be expected to continue and frustrate any coherent agenda.

    The conservative National Review strikes a more realistic attitude:

     
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    do you actually think if the republicans pass a budget that lets say defunds the health insurance company bail out that the democrats wont use every trick in the book to not pass that budget or Obama veto it and in essence shut down the government?
     
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    I don't expect that Republicans can coalesce behind any significant legislative initiatives. Certainly, they will not vote to repeal the Affordable Care Act for the 55th time.
    That symbolic stunt became laughable.

    What are the most important bills that you anticipate the 114th Congress passing?
     
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    Me, me! (Hand raised.)

    Because look at who is in the white house. Yes, Virginia, the electorate is that stupid.

    One of my biggest current irritants is political ads that state "repeal and replace". When I see or hear those, I immediately fire off an email to that person reminding them that health insurance is None Of The Government's Business and I will never vote for a person who uses the word "replace".
     
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    I just listed one the health insurance company bail out. Only reasons health insurance premium cost have not sky rocketed is because Obama promised Health Insurance companies bail out money to make up for their loses if the exchanges prove not to be profitable every republican would get behind the vote to stop that bailout and they would have the backing of the public
     
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    All of these economic indicators were in freefall during 2008 then reversed course in 2009. The only way they could have recovered sooner is if they had recovered before Obama took office. And tax cuts only work when taxes are too high, which in 2009 certainly wasn't the case.
     
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    I wish the hardcore ideologues that need to demean Americans would just proclaim that they're planning a jihad on Medicare.

    Their vaunted Red State Model is quite the lurid spectacle, but America really needs to see the full extent of the wacko birds' agenda.

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    I wonder how many Repub candidates in '16 (who will still be running away from the Bush as if he were the ebola kissing bandit) will be positing variations on their mythical Reagan's impertinent question: "Is the US economy better now than it was at the end of Dubya's eight years? Was it better then than how his predecessor had left it?"



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    I'm not sure how you came up with that line of bovine defecation but it isn't
    true. Not a word. I'm probably far more enlightened than you, at least
    your posts signify that possibility.

    What is true is that there's no way intelligent people who have seen
    what a rotten job this president had done, i.e. an abject failure, could
    honestly and truly be anything but stupid. Maybe we can use other
    words like totally uninformed, their head is in the sand, they refuse to
    look at the facts, etc... Personally I think they equal stupidity.
     
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    I have to agree.
    Good job!
     
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    Not scientific but certainly revealing.

    [video=youtube_share;mm1KOBMg1Y8]http://youtu.be/mm1KOBMg1Y8[/video]
     
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    Not true, the taxes were too high. They need to be cut back to below
    30%.
     

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