https://www.nraila.org/articles/20160916/second-amendment-keeps-winning 11 states now in spite of the lies perpetuated by the anti gun nutters like Bloomberg. Polling from pew also shows that the majority do not support more gun control laws. It takes time but eventually the truth comes out.
That's good news. I support a person's right to own guns, but I don't support the fear mongering and fund raising done in the name of warding off a boogeyman government who is always portrayed as being seconds away from knocking down your door and taking your grandaddy's rifle collection. Now that this is a thing, maybe some of you folks could vote for somebody who isn't Donald Trump(and no, I don't mean vote for Hillary instead).
The problem with your premise is that there are those in government who are trying to ban firearms, backed by billionaires like Bloomberg who think he's been given the gift of knowing whats best for us. Of course HE has a larged armed contingent that guards him 24/7, but WE don't need guns. The left is losing their gun banning attacks are are switching into "aw you guys are silly thinking we want to ban guns". Unless of course you live somewhere like California, where liberals continue to destroy the state. The election is bigger than Trump or Clinton. This is an election about the supreme court. A vote for anyone besides Trump is a vote for Clinton and her appointments of additional Sotomayors.
Do some research into the abuses of ATF and otherwise Law Abiding Gun owners over the years, there are other cases, Janet Reno ??? - - - Updated - - - The pimple may burst soon..... It is only a matter of time....
The boogeyman can be more than the federal government...state, county, and city laws in some places attempt to do exactly what you think isn't being portrayed. Beyond that, while I like other political choices, the truth is that I cannot afford to vote for someone who has no chance. I personally believe we are in a downward spiral of extremism that will only be resolved by a revolution of some type.
It does not matter whether the Second Amendment is just. It matters that it is necessary for the support and enforcement of the entire Constitution. People are missing the point when they argue based on hunting, protection from home invaders & burglars, or even for the right to own a gun as an essential freedom in and of itself. The point of that law is to enable the populace to fight a tyrannical government, and to ensure the government is at least a little bit afraid to infringe on our Constitutional rights or to exceed its lawful power. When people stop exercising this right, all the others will surely be taken away. Were the Founding Fathers to write that amendment today, it would be phrased as the right to bear an Apache attack helicopter.
Regardless, if we find ourselves under a Despotic Government like Mexico's Government, we will have to resolve things, and that will require Arms, Aircraft etc..... Legality will figure little into the matter.
Let's be realistic. The left wants to ban guns. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvcWePEsg94 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nlhQafsx3o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAPmtKiITl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvCSNy_0s3s Let me see. The left wants to: A) Increase the number of "prohibited persons" B) Outlaw specific categories of weapons C) Eliminate high capacity magazines D) Register firearms E) Make manufacturers liable for the deliberate misuse of products by an end user. This one is funny. Can you imagine using that kind of law to sue Coke because somebody stuffed a Coke bottle up their lovers backside in a bizarre sexual experiment? Gee whiz - what happened to personal responsibility? F) Force all gun owners to submit to a permit in order to exercise a constitutional Right. And those delusional people think that gun owners are a "small minority?" Many of the people supporting Hitlery Clinton live in hood, own firearms, don't listen to the issues and probably won't give up their weapons regardless of what laws they pass. REALITY CHECK: * Over a third of all Americans polled admit they own a firearm * In Alaska, firearm ownership is 62 percent of the population * The biggest demographic of gun owners are over 55, white and have more than a high school education * When you eliminate that portion of the citizenry, the prohibited class (those who have a record), ownership is 52 percent of eligible Americans. I would guess a lot of the prohibited class of people own guns and don't admit it. The real deal right now is that gun owners are having a lot to say about the next election. They know Hitlery will nominate anti - gun Justices for the Supreme Court; she will push for more and more gun control. I'm personally seeing a push back - especially at the state and local level. BTW, I attended a gun show this morning. The line was a half mile long to get in. People from all walks of life were there - young, old, white, black and other. No doubt about it, more and more people are looking into this issue and learning about their Rights.
What assurances do any of you really have that Trump is going to be the one to protect your gun rights? What assurances do you have that Trump will nominate someone you like for the Surpreme Court? The man is loyal to nobody because he holds himself above all others. Not saying he wouldn't do either of those things, just that you have no credible reason to think he would considering he's been all over the political spectrum throughout his decades of media exposure. Running as the Republican candidate does not bind him to following through on Republican principles, especially considering how many even in his own party don't like him. The Republicans were the only party he could really run with since the Democrats would never have an ignoramus like that, since they tend to like their own breed of ignoramuses, like Clinton. I just think it's funny that folks think they're making a radical decision and "taking back their country" by voting for....a self-obsessed attention addicted Republican whose only allegiance to the Republican party or their ideals(other than making it easier for corporate America to rule our lives and operate of their own accord) is that they're the party whose standards are low enough to take him in and nominate him.
He said he would protect the 2nd Amendment and he gave a list of people he would appoint, what assurances do you have that he won't especially since the only real alternative choice given is Billary? Logical people understand that we have 2 choices...the rest of the choices are really just non choices or anti votes, which in an of itself is a self absorbed thought process. You can't take back your country with a non-starter no matter how much you hope and wish. I have an allegiance to my family and my children not a political party, Your assumptions that I adhere to a low set of standards or an addiction to a belief in party principals is farcical. I promote what is necessary for the extension of my core beliefs with the strongest possibility of success.
On the other hand we know exactly what Cankles will do, it's a big part of her platform after all. Of course, even as a liberal, she knows she can't talk about it until she gets elected....she's been strangely quiet lately on gun rights. This is because everyone, including many moderate leftists, are waking up to the lies of the gun banner movement. Trump, on the other hand, has everything to lose running as a pro-gun candidate. Being an anti-gun liberal is tough, being an anti-gun republican is a kiss of death.
My personal opinion is that Donald Trump is an egotistical, self absorbed, jackas*s that finds it more comfortable with the Democrats than the Republicans. I doubt that the man even wants the job. If Hillary Clinton gets the presidency, we know full well what we'll get. The only hope that I see is that IF Trump became president, as man of money he understands the importance of nominating judges that have a similar view to his with respect to over-regulation. And, since Trump's businesses would benefit off of judges and policies that limit regulation, that means he is opening the doors to those right of center and, consequently, less prone to draconian laws like gun control. The people who will be the most disillusioned, however, will be the Build the Wall crowd. Just as Trump backed off the Birther agenda, he will fold like an accordion on immigration. But, again, if the people around him reduce regulations, they will not be pabulum puking liberals stuck on stupid and taking away the tools we will need in order to resist in the future.
First, if Trump wants to be a two term president then he will struggle to keep as many of his promises as possible since unlike the case with Obama (or if Hillary were to become president) he won't have the bulk of the Mainstream Media permanently on his side, relentless determined to spin and cover for him no matter what. That, by the way, was why Obama could neglect almost every one of his campaign promises and still have a chance at re-election in 2012, BECAUSE the perpetually in-the-tank-for-him Mainstream Media DID relentless spin and cover for their Political Messiah. As for candidate faults . . . it should be obvious even to her supporters by now that Hillary is seriously brain damaged. Tonight while speaking out about the Islamic Terrorist attacks she was obviously drugged to the gills and damn near comatose on her feet. She is NOT physically or mentally fit to become president, period.
I don't disagree with you that Hillary Clinton is not fit to be president. Under NO circumstances would I do anything that would enhance her chances to get elected. I'm just not all that enthusiastic about Donald Trump either. Let me reiterate as it applies to this thread: IMO, Trump ran with a twofold purpose: Destroy the Republican Party and force the Democrats to champion some of Trump's causes. IF Trump gets elected, I think he would do things that would help him to make more money. He is in love with money. So, Trump has to surround himself with people that have an aversion to big government and over-regulation. And, since this is a thread about firearms, I'm thinking that these people wanting less government regulation would be open to reducing the number of gun regulations we have now. Think about who is trying to destroy Trump right now - lots of big guys financed by even more big foreign money. I'm tired of people like George Soros buying elections and the Rupert Murdochs controlling the news.
But it doesn't matter, as he is basically a liberal democrat anyway. When the Sandy Hook shooting happened, his first knee jerk reaction was to agree with Obama about increased gun control. When the Orlando shooting happened, his first knee jerk reaction was to want to talk to the NRA about taking away due process from gun owners. He is not our friend. (I agree Hillary isn't either, but Trump is little better, and IMHO, it will be harder for a Republican Congress to oppose Trump than to oppose Hillary).
Here is the other part of the issue: The big change over the next four years is in the United States Supreme Court. If Hillary Clinton gets elected, she will nominate people that want a more intrusive government. She will nominate people that want big government and THAT is the greater danger. She will nominate anti - gun SCOTUS nominees. Trump is not a professional politician. He is a businessman. He must, of necessity, nominate people that are less likely to be in favor of more governmental regulation. Hopefully, that spills over into the area of constitutional Liberties. I mean either a judge is a big government type OR he ascribes to the philosophy that the government that governs least governs best. I have stated, over and over again, Trump is not the friend of constitutionalists. But, then again, I got into trouble here for challenging those whose IQ prevented them from seeing what was inevitable anyway. Trump will back off the wall idea and he may even think he can sweet talk Congress into passing gun control. So, between him and Hillary, we're screwed... except that gun bills have to go through Congress before Trump can do much of anything.
I don't buy that Trump will be any better on SCOTUS. I think he will start off nominating a conservative. The dems will shoot that down. Then he will start nominating moderates, who IMHO, are worse than liberals. Liberal judges will rule at least sometimes in favor of the people instead of the government. Moderates tend to go with the government.
Trump is a businessman first, I am sure he is well invested in Gun companies, so why would he want to pass Gun Laws that would kill off great Business investments ? I see him helping to get rid of many Gun Laws on the books to make a quick buck, like the ban on post 1986 machine guns and the GCA of 1968, non of which affects Crime.
You might very well be right. I know what we'll get with Hitlery. I'm hoping that IF Trump gets elected, he has enough sense to go with more conservative choices because, he is into big business and politics are just a sideline. I just count on us being screwed either way.
I know that Trump is a conman. I know Hillary is corrupt. We will be screwed either way. - - - Updated - - - I haven't heard that Trump does much investment outside of his own companies. Do you have a link to that? He won't be getting rid of gun laws. He's a northeastern liberal. Down deep, he is like the rest of them, who thinks guns are ok for rich people and the police, but the rest of us shouldn't have them. If you think otherwise you're deluded. His first reaction to Sandy Hook, not even 4 years ago, was to agree with Obama's proposal of more gun control.
The united states as a nation has always been screwed. Most simply have not realized that fact for themselves.
As bad as Trump is, Hillary is and will be much much worse and will appoint People like Rosie O'Donnell (sp?) the rabidly Anti Gun Anti NRA actress to SCOTUS. So I will vote for the lesser of the two insectoid beetle like Weevils, Donald Trump. Imagine, a man walks into his bedroom and finds a bunch of strange large insects eating his guns and CCW permits, each insect has a head like Hillary Klinton and large powerful jaws and snaps off and devours your Rifles barrels, like old moldy stale bread sticks. Crunch ! That is Exactly what Hillary will do to Us if she is elected, as POTUS.
