30-40% Unemployment by This Summer

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  1. Bluesguy

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    The only evidence they had was Trump properly executing presidential authority.
     
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    Well why don't you address what I posted instead of your claims about "they".
     
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    Most of the republicans in the senate knew in their hearts that Trump was guilty but were more worried about backlash from their constituents as opposed to carrying out their oath of office.
     
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    So you agree - the Democrats had no need to call additional witnesses during the trial.
    Good to know.
    Given the evidence at hand, no rational. honest person could conclude that Trump committed any of the actions he was accused of - especially Article II.
     
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    the president does not have the authority to solicit a foreign government to help him defeat a domestic political rival, by withholding congressionally appropriated funds from them. That's why he is impeached.
     
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    Sure that was why he was impeached...that was the accusations...but when the Dems had to actually present their case, they failed, drastically and amazingly in proving any of it.

    Hence why the Senate found him not guilty and he was fully exonerated because there isn't any further action going to be taken on the allegations.
     
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    Correct. The Democrats accused Trump of an abuse of power, but did not present any direct evidence of the President doing any such thing.

    Never mind that "abuse of power" requires a violation of the law, something Trump was not accused of.
     
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    Yep, we even have a treaty with Ukraine to insure such cooperation in such investigations and it's the Presidents duty to protect the dollars the taxpayers were committed to.
     
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    actually they conclusively proved it. Republican senators are cucks and voted against the evidence.

    the senate doesn't exonerate. They vote to remove from office or not. We've been over this. I've corrected you dozens of times.
     
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    we have no treaty with Ukraine that permits a president to solicit a foreign government to help him defeat a domestic political rival by withholding congressionally appropriated funds from them. What a silly thing for you to say.
     
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    If they proved it he would be convicted.

    sure they do, when he is acquired and there will be no further action. Unlike when Clinton was acquited but then took a plea deal with the doj
     
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    was OJ convicted?
    they objectively do not.
    the DOJ and the senate have nothing to do with each other. The senate votes to remove from office, or not. That's it.
     
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    Yes

    sure they do

    Of course they have something to do with one another. With that said in impeachment trials the senate votes if someone is guilty or not, that same conduct can be criminal...and The DOJ can prosecute. As they did with Clinton regardless of the outcome of the senate trial. Hence why he wasn’t exonerated. With trump there is nothing criminal, nothing to prosecute. Hence why the senate fully exonerated with their not guilty vote
     
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    I have said before this event even happened, that the next President could not fix the next recession, the depression is coming, this just upped the timeline
     
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    the Senate only votes to remove or not
     
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    No, they vote guilty or not guilty. Removal is one of the options if they find someone guilty.
     
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    I love how Democrats would have both completely opened the borders and locked them down, kept everyone employed and shut down the economy sooner, told everyone covid wasn't a problem and is a problem, set everyone's expectations correctly by telling them that masks don't and do work, that certain medications are and aren't showing promise, and that there will and will not be an end to this devastatingly wonderful opportunity to spin perception in Democrat favor.
     
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    Lolwut? :roflol:

    You have got to be kidding.

    Unlike the Clinton Impeachment, someone from His Own Party voted for Conviction.

    Exonerated?:roflol::bored:
     
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    If Joe Biden wins, and the Dems take the White House, I have no doubt you are right we'll see a depression. If they lose, business will be back to normal rather quickly
     
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    Who cares what the "Dems. would have done"?

    It was Trump's Call (and he dropped the ball miserably).
     
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    Huh? Clinton had to take a plea deal based on his conduct...and both Dems and Republicans voted to impeach Clinton....it was bipartisan.

    The Dems voted all on party lines to accuse the President of wrong doing...he was found not guilty, and there will be no further action based on his conduct...hence be was fully exonerated when he was found not guilty.
     
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    Who cares what the Dems would have done? Voters...

    Frankly, not sure how you can say he dropped the ball, when 2 million would have died if the Dems had been in office, and now the numbers are in the range of the average flu because of Trump's actions
     
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    That is because the GOP delayed passing the stimulus by pretending to work out a compromise.
    And even YOU know Obama said no such thing, it was a LIE started by George Will "The Shill."
    Please link to a REAL Obama quote saying it!
    Truth is a language the Right can't speak.
     
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    You have no metric by which to measure what could have been done differently to lead to some better outcome.

    Beyond that, the Dems message to the people has been clear that they would have messed up worse. Who's the Dem leadership in this? Cuomo? Have you seen New York's numbers?
     
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    We are already in the Great Tramp Depression, which is much worse than the original Great Depression.
     

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