33% of Sanders Supporters Will Not Vote for Hillary Clinton

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  1. Sundance

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    A recent Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll shows that 33 percent of Sanders supporters will NOT vote for Clinton in the general election. If those voters stay home, or if some of them cross the aisle to support Donald Trump due to issues like free trade and corporate financing of campaigns, then Clinton could be in serious trouble.

    Team Clinton already fears Trump. “Any strategy we come up with today is going to have to be awfully flexible because we don’t know what to expect from this guy,” said David Brock, who runs pro-Clinton super PAC’s.

    http://usuncut.com/politics/sanders-supporters/


    uh oh :lol:
     
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    Trump is the ultimate Bull(*)(*)(*)(*)ter, and his supporters don't care about the BS. Combined with the Sanders independent voters, if Trump does win this....it's sad for the country but a big ROFL moment for Clinton.
     
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    you know you love him :3
     
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    Shades of Naderism all over again!
     
  5. Andrew Jackson

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    Everybody, assuming they actually possess a brain, knows that polls of that nature (at this point in an election cycle) are completely meaningless.


    If I see reliable polls showing Hillary trailing in the swing states in October, I might give some credence to the utterly ridiculous assertions in the OP. Next.
     
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    There's some facebook campaign about the "Bern" supporters vowing not to vote for Clinton if he loses. Lemme find the link and edit this post with it. My nerdy college roommate just shared it.
     
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    The #BernieOrBust movement is marketing. Nothing to see here, as usual.
     
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    Somehow that quote doesn't seem to express fear.
     
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    I have been saying this for days. I believe an alarming number of Sanders supporters will fail to support or will actively oppose Clinton when Sanders finally bows out. The anti-establishment mood of the people is strong, both democrats and republicans. Problem for democrats is that they have no anti-establishment alternative to Sanders, whereas, Cruz represents a good second choice for the GOP should Trump falter. Also, my feeling is that a large number of Sanders supporters are there not because they agree with his policy, but because he represents the only anti-establishment choice for democrats. Once he bows out, those will either abstain, or will seek out another anti-establishment candidate to vote for, and the only remaining choice will be running as a republican.
     
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    This is the result of living in a bubble for years.

    1) Sanders supporters support him specifically because of his policies which are in stark contrast with every Republican for decades.

    2) Any supporter I have met who says they will not vote for Hillary say they will write in his name or some no name green party candidate or alternative, never do they suggest voting for a Republican

    3) This happens every election where people fight against the notion of voting for the lesser of two evils but once the GOP shows the true nature of their evil the country rallies against them hence Obama for 8 years.

    4) Bernie Sanders made it perfectly clear he will not be responsible for a Republican winning the White House so if he bows out he will throw his support behind Hillary, after which Warren will, that alone will ensure a Hillary victory. Especially when people realize a Vote for Hillary now will lead to a vote for Warren in the future. If Hitler part 2 or 3 win the devastation to our democracy will set us back for a generation, we will not let that happen.

    When the smoke clears, thanks to Trump and Cruz the GOP will lie naked and exposed to the world for the regressive, ignorant, arrogant, racist, greedy party that it is. Thanks to Sanders the Democratic party's shift to the right has also been exposed and will be pushed against by the young progressive liberals who are sick of running in place to maintain some theocratic/money centric ideology that runs on fear and ignorance. Hopefully a new better party will emerge from the carcass of the GOP and the left will either be reformed to for once actually express real progressive liberalism or face it's own destruction when it starts to smell too much like the GOP.
     
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    Sanders supporters who would choose Trump over Hillary
    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ters-consider-donald-trump-no-hillary-clinton

    What was that about living in an bubble again? ;)
     
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    Thank you for including that disclaimer about the rest of your post, ahead of time. It was quite helpful. From a grammatical point of view, you should have said "The following is..." rather than "This is...". :D
    Indeed living in your partisan bubble has clouded your perspective.

    The People, regardless of political affiliation, are gathering their torches and pitchforks for a march on the bought and paid for crony establishment in Washington, and the very embodiment of that is Hillary Clinton. Ignore them at your own peril. Tar and feathers will look good on you.
     
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    Lol, yeah so the Guardian asks people to fill out a form and answer that specific question and you consider this valid? Even the Guardian states that its not a poll and the only other polls they do cite show 7-8% of Sanders supporters saying they could see themselves supporting Trump. Do you know how many on the right said they would vote for Hillary if Trump is the nominee?

    Perhaps you are not aware that there are GOP trolls pretending to be Bernie supporters, that indeed many of the Bernie or Bust ideas came from GOP trolls who thought and still think it's their best chance to beat Hillary. I wonder what interest they might have had in responding to this "call out" from the Guardian?

    Let me guess, you actually think Will Quigg's endorsement of Hillary is genuine?

    Perhaps I should have mentioned that living in that bubble for long enough will make you think you're seeing reason when it's anything but. It's kind of like how insane people don't know their insane, they think they're getting saner.
     
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    Nuance and subtly was never a strong suit of Republicans, I guess explaining that my response to your post was a response to your post could have been helpful to you though in reality I was clearly giving you the benefit of the doubt.

    I'm a Bernie supporter and belong to many groups with tens of thousands of members, I also live in a state that voted in favor of Sanders and rejected Trump. Trust me, aside from the trolls pretending otherwise and a few more bitter/ignorant supporters, most Sanders supporters don't have enough brain damage to consider Trump and Sanders even remotely equal, nor do they think Hillary is just as bad as Hitler 2.

    In the end none of this will matter, I will be right and you will continue to deny the bubble in which you live.
     
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    You'll find that that number will radically shift once she has the nomination. Given a choice between Clinton and Trump, Sanders supporters won't actually stay home en masse.

    I mean, I'd like to see that happen, but it won't. And most Republicans who now say they won't vote for Trump, imo, actually will.
     
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    You claimed that no Sanders supporter would even consider voting for a republican. I merely corrected your false claim. 7-8% is a very significant number under the circumstances, especially when coupled with 33% who as per the OP won't switch to Hillary. Losing 40% of Sanders voters may prove catastrophic in November.
     
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    You realise this is just your opinion of what may happen, entirely unsupported by facts, right?

    When is was in my 20s I was mad at the GOP for running George Bush and not Bob Dole. I sat out the election, even though I despised Dukakis.

    Never underestimate the idealism and purity of ideals of youth.

    Young people don't do hold your nose voting. And, Trump will put out a strong campaign to win them over. Only the most PC will be completely immune to it. Remember Trump is a populist, who is also flexible.

    That was my opinion.


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    ME <-- not a republican, not a partisan, and not in a bubble.

    YOU, on the other hand, describe yourself as in what might be used as the Webster dictionary definition of 'in a bubble'; you belong to large groups of like-minded people in an entire state of like-minded people, rejecting out of hand any idea that opposes the partisan group-think.

    Thank you for describing your environment. No one could possibly read that and not think 'bernie bubble'. :D
     
  19. Andrew Jackson

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    Keep drinkin' the kool aid, Skippy.

    It will be fun posting the day after Hillary wins the election.

    Assuming you are still here.

    But, I am sure you've already formulated a great excuse for the GOP loss in November.
     
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    Not really, I'm BERNIE OR BERN IT DOWN, CRASH AND BERN, refuse to vote for Hillary no matter what! I can't vote for Hillary, because when Bernie talks about "billionaires and Wall Street buying elections", he doesn't use her name, but he's telling Hillary's life story. So no, no matter what it leads to, I will NEVER vote for Hillary.
     
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    Oh wow. One person who posts on an internet forum won't vote for Hillary in November. I am sure that will tilt the whole election. Lmao.
     
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    A no vote is a vote for the oligarchs you are against.
     

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