A few question for the anti gun side.

what sort of stupidity is that. So you want to ban guns and make them illegal so you can arrest people who have guns?

your logic is really warped

OWNING something does not objectively cause anyone harm

 

ALL felons are prohibited from owning guns unless they've been out for a certain time and apply to get one. Here I florida a felon who behave can have a black powder gun after five years.

 

Under federal law you are banned for life from owning any firearm if you have a felony conviction.

 

It doesn't. We could let everyone own a flame thrower as long as it's kept in a locked government bunker. No harm, no foul.



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Despite the intention of the Gun Control Act to prohibit felons from owning guns, there are some loopholes that allow felons to circumvent federal law... (link)



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when cops are issued flamethrowers then we can talk

have you any experience with operating flamethrowers and how the chance of such an item being used in criminal activities are slim to none?

 

that doesn't contradict what I said

 

You know that program where you can name a star for a small fee? I'm up for expanding it. For $10,000 each we let a person own a nuclear war-head. They can even name it, maybe visit it once. They just don't get to remove it from the government silo.

No, owning something is not dangerous. On the other hand, I'm not thrilled with the idea of letting folks possess flame throwers in Manhattan.



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your argument has gone from ridiculous to completely inane


If civilian cops can use it in an urban environment then other civilians ought to be able to own it as freely as a 22 caliber target rifle

 

That's nice.



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civilian ci·vil·ian /səˈvilyən/
noun

person not in the armed services or the police force.


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LOL a colloquial definition that has no validity legally or in our courts nor constitutionally.

Civilian-a person not in the armed services. HENCE the term CIVILIAN law enforcement agencies.

quick question

who is the Chief FEDERAL law enforcement officer in the USA

who is the chief federal law enforcement officer in a Federal judicial district

when you can figure that out you can figure out they are also civilians

I know I worked under both and I was a civilian at all times

so were the DEA, FBI, SS, ATF and IRS CID agents who reported to me

 

Actually they can.


https://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2009/05/can-a-felon-possess-a-firearm.html

 

To cement your point its only recently police began to destinguish themselves separate from civilians. They used to called them "ordinary citizens" how do I know? I watch "the Andy Griffith show". No I'm not that old my parant a watch them and I watched the reruns.

 

you can also buy blackpowder firearms through the mail because they are not considered "firearms" within the meaning of the GCA of 68

but yes in some cases a convicted felon can have an muzzle loader

but not a firearm as defined under the GCA of 68

 

Now he's a FBI agent. Hilarious

 

cops use the term "civilians" to distinguish themselves from non-cops

firemen do it to

and I have heard DAs DOJ prosecutors etc use the term too since I was an ADA and a DOJ prosecutor. But we all are civilians under international and federal law unless we are in the armed services. One of my good friends was a Lt Colonel in the USAR (a JAG officer) and a DOJ prosecutor. He took a one year assignment to Afghanistan (I helped him qualify so he could be deputized to carry a weapon as a Special Deputy US Marshal). One of our other friends asked him in what capacity he was going to Afghanistan and he said ITS a civilian task for so I am there as a civilian not a military officer

and that was the correct use of the term

 

Different agencies have responsibility for enforcing civilian law verses military law. A civilian job in law enforcement is an alternative to serving as a sworn officer. (link)



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I thought it was your sock puppet that claimed to be a FBI agent

I guess you cannot read very well

I have never claimed to be an FBI agent

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once again a colloquial definition. try international law and federal statues

Or you could look under the OPM where it has pay grades for CIVILIAN employees such as FBI special agents or the job I had

 

I wouldn't know what job you had.



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US DOJ attorney. AKA federal prosecutor or Federal litigator depending on what year it was

 

Which boils down to falling under the UCMJ if I'm not mistaken.

 

yep, if a cop screws up he is prosecuted under the same laws as you or I

not the UCMJ.

the most relevant statutes are international treaties and international law that defines civilians as those who are not regular military.

Banoids pretend that cops are not civilians because they are aware of the fact that IF CIVILIAN employees of the state and federal governments are issued weapons for defensive use in a civilian environment, its rather tough for banoid Politicians to claim that those same weapons "Have absolutely no legitimate use in the hands of "civilians"

 

Theoretically. In practical terms, they are almost never prosecuted, regardless of how heinous their actions may appear.

 

I definitely wouldn't go that far. Most criminals don't risk trying to get them legally. The 37% that get them from friends or family... they should be cracked down on harder (the friends and family). They shouldn't get a slap on the wrist.