a letter about the arizona "audit"

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  1. Lee Atwater

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    The rational people among us will point to a lack of fraud as evidence the audit was politically inspired.

    Trumpette's, if even one vote was found to be fraudulent, will use it as a pretense for keeping the voter fraud narrative alive. Which ultimately is the point for them.
     
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    Their only goal is to destroy the faith of the people in the election system so they can take the people out of the equation. They want to let people vote and then let the state legislatures just ignore the outcome and declare a winner.
     
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    I wonder if they can redirect whatever they haven't paid out for the "services" to date to offset the millions the state has spent replacing those machines.
     
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  4. Lee Atwater

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    Because the foundation of the POT is based on nutbaggery, stoking fear, and obstruction of the majority's will........therefore their numbers are shrinking.
     
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    Trump's history of crapping on elections whose results don't please him is extensive. Democracy is antithetical to his narcissistic compulsions.

    At lease, the farce in Arizona provides a cautionary warning to other states where flaming Trumpers are incapable of accepting the will of the People and hellbent upon savaging free, fair, and secure certified election results.
     
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    I never understood why some think these machines need replaced? I thought the dominion machines couldn't be tampered with? So, now suddenly they can be and can't be audited to be sure they are in a safe fair condition. If they were so safe and full proof, why do they need replaced? Maybe we just need to all agree that paper ballots with serial numbers and ID requirements like we used to do is the answer.
     
  7. MJ Davies

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    My understanding of the issue has nothing to do with the mechanics of the machines or even tampering. They are said to be potentially compromised because the company did not follow the proper procedures for the chain of custody.
     
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    do you understand a "chain of custody? "
     
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    Here's another Trump endorsed candidate who "won". Voter fraud, anyone ?
    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/27/jake-ellzey-texas-special-election-501153
     
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    It's only a cautionary tale to those who regard the Kabuki theater coming to an end in AZ as a failure. But since Trumpette's beliefs are not bound by truth, facts, or reality the audit's outcome will likely be immaterial to their takeaway.
     
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    Sadly, this is the reality that Trumpers live in.
     
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    Anything that disproves fraud is categorized as "fake" and "corrupt" and "proof of corruption". This is why Trump is so dangerous. He can get millions of people backing him just by uttering the words "election fraud" without a milligram of evidence.
     
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    "reality" should be in quotes
     
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    Actually, I believe the letter was a call for transparency. They are asking for the results. The audit was supposed to be completed in a few weeks, but results have yet to be revealed. This is them asking for results to be revealed - not hidden.
     
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    This was likely the plan from the get go.
     
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    The audit is not finished because the election commission and Dominion are thumbing their nose at the legislature and the court.
     
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    we have lived just that the last 4 years…. Nonstop…… without any evidence at all…. A coup against a duly elected president using the power of the government agencies…. But we will never forget.
     
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    What court?
     
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    Can you provide a link so I can understand the issues you are mentioning?
     
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    That letter is the commissions reply to subpoenas issued for documentation.
     
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    This isn’t Trump or Trumpettes but the Republican establishment funding this assault on voting. I suppose one could say billionaires for Trump.

    That said. Routers are pretty much useless unless the request is for passwords and access to the County systems. Then the Senate should know the commission can’t grant them—a third party—access because it contains protected information of the County’s residents. Plus a court would back up the commission.

    Can you see the dangerous time wasting game the Senate is playing? Create the appearance the commission and subsequently the court are “hiding” something.

    I don’t believe it’s legally possible but a fun what if. What if the data was released creating a damage to the residents of the County. Would that be enough to open campaign laws shielding donors (dark money) and shine some light on the actual people funding this assault. Then relieve them of every dollar in their wallets to pay for damages to the residents of the County?

    Exposing the under belly of our political system is fun thought.
     
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    If the Arizona Senate issues a subpoena, the Maricopa commission has absolutely no authority whatsoever to deny said order based upon the grounds that the information is confidential.

    That’s wholly preposterous. And just like EVERY other senate subpoena during this Arizona audit, a judge will rule in favor of the senate.

    The commission can only stall for so long.
     
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    Furthermore there’s no such thing as a “certified election auditor”. So the commissions continuous refusal to provide documentation they’re required to provide based upon the fact cyber ninja is not a certified election auditor is complete bullshit. Of course cyber ninjas isn’t, along with everyone else, because there’s no such thing.
     
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    That’s Trumpy style transparency in spades...
     
  25. PPark66

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    It would violate HIPAA to start.
     
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