A question to Creationists....what ethnicity were Adam & Eve?

(Asked of another poster, got no response).

If we agree with the Creationist view that all modern humans are descended from one man and one woman who lived 6000 to 10,000 years ago.....then what "race" where they?

Caucasian? Sub-Saharan African? Asian?

And how did we get a diversity of racial genotypes from two people who were of the SAME racial genotype. In other words, if Adam & Eve were "black" (i.e. sub-Saharan African)....and Cain and Seth were therefore black....and the "sisters of Cain and Seth" who they married and had children with were also black.....

how did we end up with Caucasians and Asians in the space of a few centuries or so? (Given images of such "races" in ancient art)

"Mutation and evolution"?....why those are just "theories", don't you know?

(BTW, sadly, I expect a dearth of direct answers to this question by Creationists. Let's see if I'm proven wrong)

 

We don't know, but anyone who thinks Adam was dark-skinned because he was formed of red clay must believe that Eve was almost albino white because she came from a white rib.

 

There's no ethnicity until after Noah.

http://www.bible-truth.org/GEN10.HTM

 

In every kids' pictorial bible I've seen, they were distinctly anglo-saxon caucasian .... just like jesus

 

Mutation and evolution? How about adaptation?

 

This is easy....Adam was created in Gods image, so he was obviously white.

 

MrC....what ethnicity were Adam and Eve and Cain and Seth and their sisters that they married and had children with?

 

You'll notice a dearth of answers from the Creationists...and even MrConservative refused to answer the question directly.

Wanna guess why? For a few..it's racism...but for MOST...it's a problem of "Bible science"...which is the greatest oxymoron in history.

 

Well, the problem is we really can't know what color they were without time travel and seeing.

But like everything else with religion, we all make God in our own image.

 

what's more surprising (always ... hence my frequent presence here) is not that they keep striking problems such as this, but that they don't seem to register the red flags. I'll wager that in any other sphere of their endeavours, so many red flags would see them run a mile. one can only conclude, then, that the pride associated with religious belief is more a factor than anyone cares to admit. also, that even mature adults can be reluctant to throw out a cuddly blankie.

 

How does reducing the gene pool (once again) to only Noah and Na'amah resolve the conundrum?

 

Well, that's nice you have such a high opinion of me. Thanks.

Since, I am not a creationist though, the questions you asked do not apply to me. If you want to start an argument with creationists, thats fine. May I suggest that you propose an argument and not merely ask questions. This would help clear up any confusion. It's impossible for people to understand what you believe, only what you do not believe. Thanks.

 

I always find it amazing that the same people who don't think millions of species could evolve over millions of years will believe that those same millions of species can come from a handful of creatures in just 5,000 years.

 

If God created human beings in the image of himself, then what ethnicity was God?

 

I've contended for years that fundamentalists believe not in evolution, but revolution.
Two birds are mentioned: a raven and a dove. They might be the ancestors of all birds.

 

In that respect, Creationists have painted themselves into an uncomfortable corner. With the preponderance of fossil record, the myth of that big wooden boat, as well as your question on race, they are forced to rely on a concept abhorrent to fundamental Christians - evolution. Or at least something closely akin to it.

 

Ever seen "Inherit the Wind"? The best adaptation being the 1960 movie with Spencer Tracy and Fredric March.

Near the end, when "Drummond" has the Creationist "Brady" on the stand, Brady becomes stumped for an answer and says "I do not think about things...that I...uh...do not think about." To which Drummond naturally asks "Do you ever think about the things you DO think about?"

That pretty much summed up that attitude. As we've noted on other threads with Creationists, when they become stumped for an answer to a logical question...it's usually because they have "never thought about it" or (more recently) have not been fed an answer by their fundamentalist/literalist Christian websites because those websites don't have an answer to it and thus "fail to bring it up" entirely.

And when stumped....they try to change the subject or go with the old stand-by "God did it...I don't care how He did it and that's all there is to it!"

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Then why did you respond to this thread????

 

I can't believe I missed this the first time around....and the answer is simple, they're white. In fact, Eve was a ginger. I've seen the photos myself

 

Lol. I remembered arguing this with someone. I said that according to the Christian faith, we are all Hebrew because we all descended from Adam and Eve.

And then...after God destroyed humanity with a flood, we were all the descendants of Noah.

So...everyone- Asians, African's, Early Americans, etc- are Hebrews whose distinctions came about over a period of about 6000 years. If God has a chosen people, then it is everyone.

 

Well, I think they'd say "No other birds were MENTIONED...but that doesn't mean Noah didn't have an aviary tucked away in the corner of the boat."

But the "race" of Adam and Eve is more tricky. Especially for the Young Earth Creationists who have only a few centuries to turn the ancestors of a "white Adam" into Africans and Asians....or a "black Adam" into blonde, blue-eyed Vikings....or an "Asian Adam" into Watutsi.

And little way to explain how a lineage of people of ONE race (of whichever they want to pick)....spawned the other two primary ethnicities of Mankind. Especially when in 1000s of years of recorded history, no "all-white" Scandavian family has magically produced a black child....nor a "all Asian" Chinese family has magically produced a Western European Caucasian.....nor an "all Sub-Saharan African" family magically produced an Asian.

If Adam and Eve and Cain and Seth were Asian...then there is no way in the in the time-line given by the Craetionists that there could be ANY white people or black people. UNLESS, they want to use "mutation and evolution" but claim it "happened real fast".

But in using that claim....they'd expose their hypocrisy when they deny evolution, wouldn't they?

 

Early Creationists (and many Christians who used the Bible to support slavery) believed that the "three races of Man" were from descent from the "three sons of Noah".....each son being one white, one black, and one Asian. (The racists used the "curse of Ham" as an excuse for enslaving or hating Africans).

Thing is...they offered no explanation of what race Noah and his wife were...or how they became those races from descent from Seth (and his "wife nee sister")......nor how even if Noah was white and his wife was black...they produced an Asian son?!?!?!? (or any combo thereof)

It all falls apart at that point.

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That's another component of the reason that SOME of the Creationists don't want to answer.

They believe Adam and Eve were Caucasians out of racism. But they can't say that openly or their racism would be exposed.

Most however are not racist....just bereft of logical answers to logical questions.

 

i don't see a conundrum here.

Sometimes these "conundrums" are made by the nonreligious on purpose.

The only thing I do agree with is that the Bible is not very clear on what ethnicity Adam and Eve were, but, at least to me, it's not a big deal.

But if I had a time machine I would travel back in time to see for sure.

 

Falls apart before that.

Were Adam and Eve two races? If not, how did three races distinguish themselves in the time between Adam and Eve and Noah? If the races came about from Noah, how do you get three different races from two Hebrews?

Also, if this is the case, why weren't all three races omnipresent in the world instead of regionally separated over thousands and thousands of miles? It, indeed, fails.

 

The way I heard it...Jesus, Adam and Eve, Moses, and the rest were European, and looked like Greeks, who get an honorary designation of "white" for purposes of argument.

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Made in the image of God they were!......and while I have you....do you believe God is corporeal?.....I mean he MUST be if Adam was made in his image.....

 

I'm not a believer in god.

But if he exists and is completely omnipotent, then he can take on whatever shape he wants to.