A Second MAGA Clerk in Colorado Also Breached Voting Machines

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  1. Across the pond

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    Not a bad character reference, in that case.
     
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    Because he is a liar, ignored the ample evidence that was in his and everyone else's face. I find it hilarious that America haters now claim to be the "real" patriots. You have seen the evidence of the steal and chose to ignore it. "dirty donny"? I find that offensive and ironic coming from the camp of liars.
     
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    I have seen the evidence that Trump's supporters claim shows a stolen election and all of it seems to me to fall apart on examination. Barr gives plausible reasons for dismissing 2000 Mules; I've not seen anyone give a cogent response to demonstrate how he's wrong.
     
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    More importantly (and no offense), judges have seen this "evidence" and agree with you.

    If there's something a judge hasn't seen, why hasn't it been submitted in a lawsuit instead of a movie?

    Could it be you can make more money (???) from a movie than a lawsuit??
     
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    Willful ignorance.. the 3am bump alone was enough to spark a deep investigation to voter fraud.
     
  6. ToddWB

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    Ok .. I have better things to do than this equivalence of beating a steel bearing with a rubber mallet. There is no seeing eye to eye with you and yours.
     
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  7. Across the pond

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    Recognise that someone could genuinely have a different opinion from you. Almost every issue I've looked at has been paper-thin. Those that aren't are the law changes, but people can only speculate as to their effect.

    On that one issue you cite: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-wi-pa-mi-vote-spikes-idUSKBN27Q307
     
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    Yeah, we certainly need an investigation as to why Milwaukee, Detroit, and Philly didn't vote for a supporter of White Nationalism...

    It's a head scratcher, I tell ya....
     
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    Your argument-- while it doesn't make sense, even as you state it-- is based on the falsehood that "the Left," had claimed that Russians had hacked our election (our voting machines/computer databases), which was not the case; the claim, which was based on National Security agency data, and has been verified as true, was that Russia interfered in our election, most notably, through social media (however, I also recall an incident being discovered in which Russia had hacked into a database of information on registered voters). Why this would make it "not that unreasonable," for Republican officials to illegally copy election data, is not apparent, nor explained, in your "argument."

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    Schroeder, who did not return a request for comment, is the second Colorado clerk accused of breaching voting machines under his supervision. The other clerk, Tina Peters of Mesa County, is currently facing a barrage of criminal charges for allegedly
    stealing a local tech worker’s identity, illegally copying her county’s election data, and leaking it to election fraud conspiracy theorists last spring. She later appeared at Lindell’s “cyber symposium” on supposed voter fraud where she implied, incorrectly, that the stolen data suggested election malfeasance against Donald Trump...

    Stop The Steal types in Colorado have called for breaches of voting machines on the basis of a conspiracy theory that falsely accuses state officials of wiping those machines. (Peters, the Mesa County clerk, also cited the theory in her alleged breach of voting machines.) Schroeder, along with a small group of fellow Republican clerks, invoked the conspiracy theory in their own lawsuit against state officials in November. Ironically, Schroeder’s own affidavit in that case revealed that he had made unauthorized copies of his county’s election machine data.
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    What does any of that, have to do with Russians? It is a case, once again, of MAGA Republicans trying to justify their own, admitted, illegal activities, based on their unsubstantiated suspicions, that Democrats had done something illegal.
     
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    Try applying the thinnest of logic.. a guy who hid in his basement vs. a guy who filled up arenas once and sometimes twice a week.. I you were a betting man, where would you place your money? And you were told repeatedly that Biden was suffering from dementia and you ignored that too. I recognize that it is not your opinion, it is your marching orders.
     
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    It is very simple - Trump was probably the most hated man in the history of US politics. I presume that far more voted against him than for Biden. Geez, it's even a RW talking point about how much people hate Trump. There aren't many dots to join.
     
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    And by the way, you're welcome to explain why Barr is wrong in his reasoning.
     
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    You still don't get that people were voting as much against T**** as they were for Biden?

    And nobody I respect told me Biden was suffering from dementia.... It was MAGA people, many of who still voice support for a corrupt man with narcissistic personality disorder, vs my own judgement on that account...
     
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    trump has been a cheater all his life, it only stands to reason, he attracts the same type as supporters.
     
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    Ok.. now I have all the evidence I need that you are a MSN lackey. I will concede this; and this is the evil of half truths.. which is another term for clever lies; Trump probably was the most hated man in the history of US politics, but loved by the actual voters of the USA. He was definitely hated by the DC and Global bureacrasy, ('cause he was cutting into their graft) and hated by the Military/Industrial Complex ( losing them trillions too, remember, he started no wars, and the second a demonrat got in, he not only lost billions of dollars of military equipment (an enemy to boot!) and found a new war to blow our money (billions to Ukraine).. ah all is right in the world again!

    Why do you support the most evil people in the world? Another point of logic... the number of Trump endorsed voters winning their races is a phenomena not seen in USA politics, not likely fi hated by "most" Americans. We have not forgotten the incredible strides he made in his "America First" agenda, he did more, under constant attack, and with fragging for his own supposed side, than any other modern day president. Just a note.. I do not like the establishment career politicians Republicans and more than the just plain evil demonrats... perhaps even less because of their duplicity.
    Trump won my loyalty over during his short term.. the number of historic achievements is just astounding... and if th emidterms are not stolen like 2020 was, he'll be President again.. and then he's a hell of a candidate by assassination by the Establishment, because they haven't been able to stop him so far. Won't help them, too many free movements have been spawned worldwide already..
    You are closer to the protest in Denmark and the Continent in general.. hearing much on the news about them?
    Well cooled down a bit, It's a mere 96 degrees (but very humid)

    I hope you do your own thinking before you reply again.
     
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    Actually the "mass fraud" in Philly gave Trump a 4K net pick-up vs 2016

    Which means he lost 120K+ in the rest of the state

    Yet the "mass fraud" in Philly continues to be one of the debunked conspiracy theories still being repeated
     
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    Did Dems say Russia changed votes, imported bamboo ballots, snuck in fake mail ballots, used dead voters? Every country influences the election of other countries. This is a fact.

    How many republicans cried about fraud during the 2022 primaries?
     
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    Cyberninjas got the ballots end of April and didn't finish counting until late September...and they were only examining 2 races!

    It's all about transparency but dems had to sue to get cyberninjas' policies and procedures on the audit.
     
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    Somehow, in that entire rant, you manage to completely avoid the point I made about why Trump lost. Well, I’ll not bother replying again.
     
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    LOL... was he ever!!... he took his cut from all existing grafts... and invented a lot of new ones....

    Like fund raising 250M on completely false pretenses about some "stolen election"....
     
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    To me, no week is complete without my Tina Peters, Colorado Psycho update.

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    After raising $250,000 for a recount of Colorado’s Republican primary for secretary of state, far-right candidate Tina Peters has lost her race for a second time.

    The Denver Post reported Thursday that the Mesa County clerk lost by more than 88,000 votes to more moderate Republican Pam Anderson.

    Peters reportedly gained just four votes in the recount, which required the quarter-million dollar fee.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/county-clerk-tina-peters-loses-210822639.html

    I bold the key numbers in this story....

    What is a bigger shocker? That she lost her recount or that SOMEBODY (probably Mein Pillow guy) paid a quarter of a million dollars for this nonsense??

    Well, if Colorado didn't make a little profit on this, they need to rethink their recount laws....
     
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    Tina Peters lost in yesterday's Colorado primary for her dream job of being Sec.of State.
    A position that would have her oversee elections and certifying them.:roflol:

    She's accused election officials of cheating ( same old) and said it ain't over.

    Tina Peters lost and the FBI seized Mike Lindell's cell phone on the same glorious Tuesday in the month of September. lol
     
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    I remember when Stacey Abrahms went all over the place telling everyone she had actually won her election in Georgia and refused to concede. I remember when Dems and their media allies were largely silently supportive rather than calling her an "election denier". Do you remember that?
     
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    How long did it take for Abrams to acknowledge Kemp won? Now compare that to Trump. I also believe Abrams said the system in georgia was suspicious because the person running the system was a candidate. She acknowledged the results of the elections, but that saying it was tilted towards one side. Now compare that to Trump and his followers claiming bamboo ballots were inserted and voting machines were hacked remotely from China with hundreds of thousands of dead voters.
     

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