Abortion and poverty

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Bowerbird, Oct 7, 2018.

  1. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Who are you to judge what pressures other women are under? What right do you have to judge another without knowing all of the facts of each individual case? I also know there may be women having abortions for “ selfish” reasons but on the flip side what sort of mothers would they make?
     
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    Well of course I don't know all the facts about these women's lives, but I just think what I pointed out has merit. I am sure you yourself are aware of these women.
     
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    When men get pregnant they can face the same reaction as women do

    But isn’t it strange how little censure you hear aimed at the irresponsible men
     
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    What do you mean by "these women" ?

    No, what you said about women who have abortions is without merit.
     
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    crank Well-Known Member

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    Men have a say in (aka responsibility for) what happens to womens' bodies, or they don't. Make up your mind.
     
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    Judging women who have abortions of convenience is absolutely meritorious.

    The goal is less aborted babies .... on behalf of babies. The goal is not to protect the egos and feelings of grown women, and enable morally bankrupt choices. Not sure what to call a person whose goals are the opposite. At least, not in public.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then I recommend you do not do it....that is the limit of what your opinion has power over.
     
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    ALL abortions are done for convenience....could you cite one that isn't?

    It may not be convenient for a woman to have a kid she can't afford.

    It may not be convenient for a woman to disrupt her life to have a kid.

    It may not be convenient to die in childbirth.

    It may not be convenient to suffer financial and education losses.




    No babies are aborted, fetuses are aborted and why would you want less aborted???.




    No, the goal of Pro-Choice is to protect women's right to their won bodies from those who, while preserving THEIR rights , wish to destroy women's rights.




    I know exactly what to call someone who wants to take away other's rights...….but Forum rules limit that.
     
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    I feel that I have the moral duty to try to stop people from murdering others.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And you do....however you do not have a moral duty to decide what constitutes murder because you want your opinion to dictate the lives of everyone else. Morally and ethically you should check your ego and evaluate what you are doing.
     
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    It's not a mere opinion. I have proven through logic that abortion is indeed murder.
     
  12. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually no you have not.....I understand that in your opinion you think you have but, by legal and every other definition you have not.
     
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    Perhaps instead of attempting to prohibit all non-medically necessary abortions outright, the goal should be to implement and upper legal limit for such procedures that may be used in the lifetime of an individual. What is a reasonable, acceptable amount, to insure the procedure is not simply being used as an alternative substitute for proper birth control measures?
     
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    Then call the cops
     
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    One per unit. If someone doesn't learn (the hardest way possible) from a single experience, then they are beyond the expectation of reasonable self-control and mature adult behaviour. When you are unable to function as a reasonable adult, you declare your need to be dictated to .. just like a child. Rape and medical necessity would be exceptions, of course.

    Having said that, I prefer to use shaming tactics to reduce the death toll, rather than laws. It works well, when implemented without concession to adult egos. Egos which are technically anything but adult, if repeated abortions are present.
     
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    No, it hasn't worked well ….women still have unwanted pregnancies and abortions.

    And no one should be shamed when they have done nothing wrong.




    Ya, that ego problem, people whose egos are so inflated they think that ,like god, they should decide what is right or wrong, moral or immoral and try to force those beliefs on others....egotistical people want others shamed into doing their will because they have this sick god syndrome and twisted need to control. others...
     
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    You mean we get our rights RATIONED out !!!!???


    Really? And when do you get your right to free speech limited??
     
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    There is no constitutional right for a woman to get pregnant as many times as she sees fit, just to terminate the pregnancy via abortion.

    When said exercising crosses over into illegal conduct and puts others at the risk of physical harm as a result of the words spoken.
     
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    Yes, women have a right to their own body just like you do.
    Women are FREE to get pregnant as many times as they wish....did you want a law against that?

    They are free to get as many abortions as they want....there is NO law against THAT.



    You are correct and the key word is "illegal"....

    Getting pregnant and having an abortion is NOT illegal.
     
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    You know, by this same argument maybe we should be tossing out guns to low income neighborhoods.

    That basically seems to be the mentality behind what you're saying.
     
  21. FoxHastings

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    Only your skewed interpretation of it....
     
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    One of the ironies about abortion is that people in lower cost of living areas are the ones less likely to support it.
     
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    ...and your facts and stats and poof of that are....?????????
     
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    Floundering again......nothing to support whatever it is you are trying to say about abortion....
     
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