Abortion: why women get pregnant + feminism.

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by spt5, Nov 15, 2011.

  1. smileyface

    smileyface Banned

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    That is your judgement on my specific post. If I write something that can be consider that by someone it may be so in their mind. It does not mean that you have called me a feminazi though you may think so.
     
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    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you accept killing in self-defense or would you just let your would-be murderer kill you? In the U.S. killing in self-defense is considered to be moral.

    You do understand war don't you? If you are a soldier the enemy wants to 'murder' you. If you 'murder' him first it is moral. I will concede that in war, 'murder' may not be the appropriate word...Just substitute it for the word 'kill' and then you can rest easy. It is interesting that you ignore other salient points in my post to auger-in on one word.

    Please provide a quote where I said that I wanted to be the 'decider about women's pregnancies' or stop lying.

    "OK...You wrote: "It is the only just way that maintains self determination and freedom. with no absolutes. That is why it is wrong to impose yours on others."

    I refuted your opinion with my opinion. You are lying again.

    Is abortion for convenience-sake considered self-defense? Is a zygote waging war or trying to murder its own mother? You really need to think before accusing others.

    Really? So all the soldiers that gave their lives in time of war did so for 'convenience' in your highly estimable opinion? I guess you would just rather go 'belly-up' if threatened by an enemy.
     
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    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My reply was to your admonition of my reply to the poster that said my post was mysogynist. I said that poster was calling names. You claimed I was not called names. I provided a real-life example by calling your post feminazi.

    I would agree that because a person disagrees with a particular post there is no need to call names. BTW I did not call YOU a feminazi but (similar to the poster I replied to that called my post mysogyny) referred to your POST as 'feminazi'. See? Now you know how it feels. LOL
     
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    You continue to either misunderstand, fail to comprehend or are being somewhat provocative. I have stated that I disagree with abortion for convenience. You are conflating that with killing in self-defense which is nowhere near logic.

    OK...So you believe that abortion for the sake of convenience is 'moral?' Why?

    No...I was very clear...(see above)

    No...I said abortion terminates a developing human life.

    Actually morality is defined as knowing what is 'right' and what is 'wrong' so, it does require discriminating between the two or 'picking'....
     
  5. prometeus

    prometeus Banned

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    Come now whaler, no need to hide from the truth. Do not forget, it was you who provided the evidence that you are now trying to deny. Not very honest...
     
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    Oh I accept killing for a multitude of reasons so you are barking up the wrong tree here. I'd go to the extent of the cliche 'that some people are alive simply because it is illegal to kill them.'

    That I do, more than you think.

    That is why I said that yo must be on of those who consider soldiers, murderers.
    Clearly you have never been anywhere close to combat or even service.

    Then why use it?

    I rest easy because I do not need you to rationalize it for me.

    which points do yo feel that I ignored, so that I may better address them?

    If you wish to make abortions illegal then you and those who feel the same way do in fact wish to decide for women. If you do not wish to make abortions illegal, I made a mistake and apologize.

    Opinions are not refuted by other opinions but by facts.

    Where and about what?

    It can be.

    Yes, because it IS more convenient to keep or maintain our way of life.

    Not at all, but remember I do not have a problem with killing as you do.
     
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    You certainly are NOT VERY HONEST.

    Again, your inability to read data and/or charts has hampered your comprehension.
     
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    The data you provided was very clear indicating that most people do not oppose early term abortions.

    Now can you show me any of my dishonesty?
     
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    I did when you posted that stupidity before. Go back and read.
     
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    You did not, but you do continue to lie about it.
     
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    Laziness is not appealing!
     
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    You are right, but it is still better than the ignorance and lying you resort to.
     

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