Actual ad published to sell machine guns

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Arms still means arms. Folks, today, you can buy a machine gun.
     
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    I am very aware of what I cab own in my state and the right conditions and right permits you can own things that the average person dies not realize you can. Even in my restricted state of CT .

    I tend not to tell my neighbors in my new neighborhood too much more than I want them to known as to what I. own since we are 18 20 minutes drive time on I 84 from NewTown so people are very Leary about us gun owners around here. But things go both ways here since I also birder the town where a mother and her two daughters were murdered in a home invasion so at least my reasonably intelligent neighbors agree that people should have defensive weapons in their hones if they know how to use them. The home invasion I am talking about was rhe Petit murders.
     
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    Ha ha Thimpsom is the Korean version made by Samsung Heavy Industries LTD in Soul Korea...you making fun of my spelling ?
     
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    Everyone is noticing your spelling.
     
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    Ha ha funny not PC but funny
     
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    Yass, pleas lern to spel rite!
     
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    Don't shoot the Boston Tea Party.
     
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    Yeah, damn that left winger Reagan and those damn left-winger Republicans!

    (BTW, the majority of the Republicans in both the House and Senate voted for the 1986 extension of the NFA)
     
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    When President Obama laid out his proposals Wednesday to reduce gun violence, he included a call for Congress to ban "military-style assault weapons."

    Lawmakers on Capitol Hill have tried banning certain guns before. Nearly two decades ago, they barred the sale of semiautomatic assault weapons, only to let that law lapse 10 years later. But one gun ban has stayed on the books: a measure Congress passed a quarter-century ago making it illegal for civilians to buy or sell any machine gun made from that date forward. That legislation passed with the blessing of the National Rifle Association, which now opposes gun control measures.

    An Amendment

    In April 1986, after months of efforts, the NRA had finally rallied enough support in the Democratic-controlled House to force a bill onto the floor. The so-called Firearms Owners' Protection Act would undo many of the provisions in the 1968 Gun Control Act, passed shortly after Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King were shot dead.

    But just as the bill was about to come to a final vote in that tumultuous House session, New Jersey Democrat William Hughes introduced an amendment. It would forbid the sale to civilians of all machine guns made after the law took effect.

    There were enough Democrats to pass the amendment, so nobody objected when the presiding officer, New York Democrat Charles Rangel, called for a voice vote rather than a roll call vote on the machine gun ban.

    Former NRA lobbyist Richard Feldman, who has since parted ways with the organization, tells NPR that Wayne LaPierre, currently NRA's executive vice president, was willing to let the machine gun ban go forward if it meant the larger bill it was attached to would pass.

    "I remember very well having dinner ... with Wayne LaPierre on the big victory after it passed the House," he says. "And we weren't too concerned about the machine gun issue, but it came back to haunt Warren Cassidy."

    Opening The Door?

    At the time, Cassidy headed the NRA's lobby, the Institute for Legislative Action. He confirms now that LaPierre, who did not respond to a request for comment, pushed hard to let the machine gun ban stand.

    "He said, 'I want to do it. I think we have to do it.' So I said yes, and that was the end of the story. It passed, and as we learned immediately, an element of NRA, a very vociferous element of NRA ... determined that it just couldn't be that way," Cassidy says. "We couldn't give an inch. I don't think they ever forgave me for it."

    Gun laws expert Robert Spitzer of the State University of New York at Cortland says the bill President Reagan signed into law was more significant than it was perceived at the time.

    "One can view the Congress' action in 1986 to ban civilian possession of fully automatic weapons as something of a kind of a precedent that would open the door for restricting civilian access to semiautomatic, assault-style weapons," Spitzer says.

    Spitzer says a major reason the machine gun ban met so little resistance was a 1934 law passed a month after outlaws Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow were killed in a hail of machine gun bullets. It required machine gun owners to pay a hefty tax, be fingerprinted and be listed on a national registry.

    As a result, he says, sales of machine guns plummeted.

    "It is a good example of something that is little known, which is a gun control law that was pretty effective in keeping such weapons out of civilian hands," he says. "So by 1986, when the provision was added to the Firearm Owners' Protection Act to bar any newly produced fully automatic weapon from possession by civilians, it was really a fairly small step to make, because so few of them were in circulation to begin with."

    That's clearly not the case with the semiautomatic guns that polls show a majority wants banned today.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallp...-decades-old-gun-ban-thats-still-on-the-books
     
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    So are you just trying to deflect from me pointing out how wildly ignorant you are regarding the NFA of 1986? It was supported by the majority of Republicans in both Houses and signed into law by Reagan without even a threat of a veto.
     
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    The NFA of 1986 was better known back in 1986 to us who were gun owning adults back then as the "Firearms Owners' Protection Act " that removed many of the leftist gun regulations that were passed during the 1960's.

    As usual there's always some liberal who attaches some amendment to a bill to further the leftist agenda.

    The left did the same thing with the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986, originally an immigration enforcement bill when first drafted in 1984 there was no amnesty amendment in the bill. But to get the Democrats on board they demanded a one time amnesty. So President Reagan spent almost two years giving speeches to Republicans that we need interior enforcement and secured borders for our national security so please support the Democrats one time amnesty.

    As we know today the only part of the IRCA that was enforced was the amnesty and it was all just another liberal lie that it was a one time amnesty never to be repeated again. During the Clinton administration six more amnesties would be snuck through Congress.
     
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    So were all the Republicans who voted for the bill "left wingers"? Was Reagan leftwing for signing the bill without even a threat of a veto?
     
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    No, in the Cowboy days, a Bandanna kept trail dust and grit out of ones snout, and that White Privilege drivel is simply a crude device to tar & feather otherwise law abiding people by trying to wrongly vinculate good people with bad.
     
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    You don't get it do you ?

    The NFA of 1986 aka Firearms Owners Protection Act was a winner for the Constitution, gun owners and a lost for the liberals.

     
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    If you look closly you'll see his face isn't covered. Must you add race into everything?

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    Actually that was pretty rare.
     
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    I love how leftists see racism in black and white photos.

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    It could have been Django or Darius Rucker though.
     
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    And than you wrote it reminds me of Muslims?
    Yeah right. lol
     
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    Look closely yourself. He got his bandana over his mouth

    Oh get real. Organised crime during the prohibition days was all over. It corrupted the almost the entire government, and caused massacres all over. And the tommi gun was their weapon of choice... just spray them bullets around.
     
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    When they were on horseback riding all day with cattle... yeah.
    When in town and still doing that while shooting people and animals, it's the classic way to rob and steal.

    did it hurt your feelings? lol
     
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    NOT SO FAST, THERE......


    The Thought Police are nothing else if not thorough.


    So, are you sure that they're not Hasidic Hats in which case you'd be "anti Semitic" too?*

    "HASIDIC HAT"
    http://www.ebay.com/bhp/hasidic-hat


    The advertisement is just like any advertisement, they're just marketing a product of the era which happens to be one of the finest selective fire, submachine guns ever made & is a joy to shoot.

    Technically, I believe a "machine gun" is usually a larger, crew serviced, fully automatic / select fire (semi-automatic or fully automatic) firearm like the M-2 .50 cal, M-60 in .308 caliber while a hand held, fully automatic / select fire is called a "sub-machine gun" & fires a pistol cal. round. Then there are the "fully automatic / select fire" rifles like a M-14, M-16 etc
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    * Just kidding......
     
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    You see what you want to see I guess. Some in here see racist activities in every picture. The add is like a Rorschach test, what do you see in this image? To me it's obvious, some guys defending his livestock from rustlers.
     
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    I had a friend in Tombstone (interesting given the ad context) that had a Thompson I had the chance to shoot in the late 80's. As I remember, it was heavier than I expected, but that helped with the recoil. It was fun to shoot, relatively accurate at close range, particularly when shot in single mode. The first day I got the chance to shoot his also marked one of the funniest cartoon moments I ever witnessed. My friend spotted a Jack rabbit on a ridge about 75 to 100 yards from us and proceeded to empty a full drum trying to hit the rabbit. That rabbit ran every which way with the ground around him churning in a cloud, but when the drum was empty, he was still kicking. It was one of those 'you had to be there moments' that had me doubling over in laughter... Him in embrassment...
     
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    There is not even livestock in that picture!
    lol
     
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    Horses are livestock

    Edit: on second look you have a point in a way and it proves my point that this picture is like a Rorschach test. I saw horses and my mind went to those guys being shot must be horse thieves but on closer inspection they seem to all have saddles. I still see them as a gang up to no good on the shooters land though and see him protect thing his livestock even though it is not in the picture. So what exactly do you see when you really stop and look at this pic? I'm really interested if you can be honest about it.
    :
     
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    The obvious way to steal livestock is to ride in on your OWN horse, to than steal an entire herd. That herd / livestock is not on that picture / All the horses got people riding them. Except the dead one, to the possible 2 dead horses if you want to think the black blob behind the prancing horse is an other horse lying down.

    Also a bit weird... that to you call the killing of horse part of protecting your livestock. Like hearing a cop claiming he was protecting himself from a black person that was fleeing for his life hence he had to shoot him 6 times in his back.
     

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