Admit it, we need peaceful segregation

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  1. PolakPotrafi

    PolakPotrafi Banned

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    Avshalom Caspi studied people with low MAO-A, and high MAO-A, and specifically found that people with low MAO-A were more likely to be involved in anti social behavior such as criminality after being abused as children in comparison to those with high MAO-A.

    Yeah, sure some pseudoscience there.

    Egalitarian Liberals just slap pseudoscience on anything they don't like.
     
  2. Libhater

    Libhater Well-Known Member

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    Would that peaceful integration include the busing of blacks into predominately white neighborhood schools in South Boston during the year 1974?
    Would that peaceful integration include the BLM and hands up don't shoot cadre of misfits when they murder white cops and chant kill those white pigs?
    Would that peaceful integration include obama's 2, 3 and 4 time Mexican felons as they are granted amnesty back into America to perform more crimes like murder?
    Would that peaceful integration include the assimilation of Islamic Muslims who set up terror cells inside their mosques and force Sharia Law on their people?
    Would that peaceful integration include the race baiting and outright racist intent by obama, al sharpton, jessie jackson and the NAACP etc?

    Tell me where the peaceful integration between blacks, chicanos, Islamics and whites has taken place. And by integration I'm talking about a scene where these
    minorities (especially blacks) and whites have lived together or in the same neighborhood for years and have had a successful if not a mutually satisfying relationship.
     
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    we don't need segregation, we need full equality and opportunity and investment in all communities
     
  4. Jabrosky

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    If that were the case, would you say that would exempt black individuals who commit crimes or other undesirable behaviors from accountability? Because I can't say I've seen a lot of racialists willing to absolve black people of responsibility for anything simply because they see black people as subhuman or more "animalistic". If anything, they're quick to advocate the harshest, least sympathetic treatment of black people at the hands of the justice system. It's almost like they think black people, despite being closer to animals, deserved to be held accountable just like non-black people.
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You do realise that's what "apartheid" means... direct translation of segregation... the apartheid regime also used the bible to justify apartheid... makes me wonder why so many black people are Christians...apartheid made me lose faith and yet so many blacks in South Africa still believe... they're so much stronger than me
     
  6. Egalitarianjay02

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    Sure, just like you can say it's not a pitbull's fault if they maul a child to death. Most racists do not think like that. They seek to vilify people of African descent as "Human pests" who are more animalistic in their behavior in order to justify their racism against them.

    I'm not seeking to excuse anyone's behavior. Regardless of a person's circumstances in life I believe they should be held accountable for their actions. If racists believe that a person is not in control of their behavior and simply acting on primal instinct then perhaps they are the ones who should re-evaluate their ideology. After all if it's not their fault then why are you so racist?

    You should read the blog entry that Jabrosky posted. The author smashed these claims of racial differences in low MAO-A. No genes have been directly linked to violent behavior nor is their evidence that natural selection has resulted in low MAO-A being more common in one population over another. The Caspi study is addressed and is an example of research identifying genetic variants that are associated with people acting out due to childhood trauma rather than being naturally more impulsive or aggressive. Basically while there are "bad behavior" genes they need a trigger to be expressed and are not in themselves associated with violent tendencies as Dr. Sanjay Gupta explained on CNN.

    [video=youtube;IadIQHuepJ4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IadIQHuepJ4[/video]

    There's no such thing as a natural-born criminal.

    So that's one pseudoscientific claim that has been knocked down. Now where is the evidence that Blacks have less developed frontal lobes and that this is associated with violent behavior?

    Another claim that I've already addressed is the idea that Blacks have more natural levels of testosterone than other races and that this causes violent behavior.

    Rather than simply rejecting claims because you don't like them these claims can be investigated and refuted.
     
  7. Libhater

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    Apartheid was forced segregation. Look back to where I've continually pushed for peaceful segregation. BTW, how has the race relations and or murdering of white South African farmers etc worked out for Africa after the elimination of apartheid? Just asking.


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    Peaceful segregation is an oxymoron
    the murdering of white farmers is sad, the elimination of apartheid has worked out great for the majority of South Africans, not so much for the whites who continue to try and remain segregated. Many more black South Africans died during apartheid, yet some white people die and that's your justification for apartheid...but then again... this discussion is deja vu for me


     
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    So, why are Men more criminal, and violent than Women?

    Not because of natural selection to be the hunter, the provider, the protector, and the warrior?

    Men do indeed have lower MAO levels.

    It must be some pseudo scientific theory.

    Sure, you're just proving that Liberal egalitarians are biased dopes, who have no basis in reality.
     
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    My comment was tongue-in-cheek of course, as far as not incarcerating perps, but the point is a lot of people (blacks included) try to find a way to excuse them as a group for the high crime rate. Inevitably, it's whitey's fault, meaning to some degree, they shouldn't be accountable.
     
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    Men commit more violent crimes because they have greater capacity to commit violent crimes. And yes, natural selection made Men stronger and faster than women. Your pseudoscientific claims about MAO-A have already been refuted so you can take that "biased dope" insult and shove it where the sun doesn't shine. Racism is all about promoting pseudoscience about human nature to defend racist arguments but I suppose you know better than biologists and geneticists don't you? If so, prove it.

    Most people do not try to make excuses for violent criminals. Black people especially do not because they are the main victims of Black criminals. The claim that the disproportionate crime rate of Blacks is due to "Blackness" is an insult to the majority of Blacks who are law-abiding citizens. Instead of peddling pseudoscience and promoting racist social policies like segregation you could be trying to devise ways to lower the crime rate for all groups.
     
  12. Libhater

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    Promoting racist social policies like segregation? How in the world would a peaceful segregation of the races promote racist social policies? Segregating the races would do just the opposite. Integrating the races and promoting social policies like affirmative action, reparations, quotas and the BLM crowd chanting death to white pigs are what we common sense people call racist social policies. :wall:
     
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    Racial separation is racism. If you want to improve race-relations then just stop being racist. Diversity is not the problem behavior is.
     
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    if you want to improve race relations then stop lying, stop shouting, stop the violence and stop the crime.
     
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    Most racists are cowards.....first, they hide behind the anonymity of the Internet.

    But even that isn't enough "cover" for them. They speak in code-words or code-phrases. DENY they are racists, naturally.

    But every now and then you get what must be termed an "honest, courageous" one....who'll flat-out admit to his feelings and hopes and dreams.
     
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    To the OP,

    Since segregation is often fought and the numbers of all white communities in America aren't enough, wouldn't it be easier for white segregationist to expatriate to Europe? This way they can shore up their ancestral homeland and live in a white homeland.
     
  17. Libhater

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    I remember posting on another forum a long time ago that it would be favorable for all concerned to develop or set aside various American lands (states) to house an all white conglomeration of people who want to live in peace and want to save the white race from extinction and this onslaught of multiculturalism. It is quite ironic that you mentioned whites to expatriate to Europe--seeing how its the white Europeans who not only founded America but went on to create America and its constitution. But seeing this push toward multiculturalism, socialism, redistribution, anti Christianity and the like...your idea might not be that far off base.
     
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    Why are blacks at the bottom of every positive life category even in nations without significant racist histories, eg. Cuba, Brazil, UK, etc.?
     
  19. Egalitarianjay02

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    What? Slavery existed in Cuba and Brazil. Most immigrants of African descent in the United Kingdom come from Caribbean countries where there was slavery or African countries that were ravaged by colonialism.

    Black people have been negatively affected by White racism all around the world.
     
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    Cuba has been revolutionary socialist for 50+ years. Brazilian culture isn't racist and race mixing has been the norm. Slavery ended in these Caribbean nations for over two centuries.
     
  21. Egalitarianjay02

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    So?


    Race-mixing is more common in Brazil than America but there is still racism there and a legacy of slavery that like everywhere else in the Western world created a Socioeconomic divide.


    That doesn't matter. Slavery is still a factor in the wealth gap between demographic groups in those countries.
     
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    No it wouldn't be ok because the context doesn't involve blacks having any history at all of brutalizing, enslaving and torturing whites
     
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    How is something which ended two centuries ago still a factor?
     
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    Because the overseers never were punished and instead promoted to officers, you know, the blue gang, who traded in their ropes for guns
     
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    Slavery created a wealth gap between demographic groups. The Socioeconomic divide caused by slavery, colonialism and racism still affects the world today. Only through significant change in political policy can this problem be eradicated and even then it can take many generations or centuries for total equality to be established. We are making progress any many places especially America but there is no where in the world where social progress has eliminated racial disparities because the affects structured racial inequality are hard to reverse.
     

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