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Afghan Stabs Polish Woman in German Hospital, Killing Unborn Baby

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    It is human, it is not a person.

    And that isn't the issue. I asked WHY Pro-Choicers would be mad.

    Pro-Choice means being for women's right to CHOOSE.

    The murderer took that away from her.

    Anyone who takes away a right like Anti-Choicers want to, and the murderer did, should be punished.



    So?
     
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    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, but they contradict each other. One is 'murder' and the other is an 'improper termination of a pregnancy'. Yet they both are ascribed to the ending of the life (or life potential) of the fetus.
     
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  3. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said: ↑
    So you're contending that no German ever murdered anyone....uh, OK.....

    From the OP.




    No, the OP inferred that only immigrants kill people....that strongly suggest that Germans don't.
     
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  4. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Kermit Gossnell would be an example of both.
     
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  5. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can you link to the precise point where the op made this inference?
     
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  6. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Did you even read the article?
     
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  7. Doofenshmirtz

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    It wasn't even inferred. You made it up.
     
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  8. FoxHastings

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    I can directly quote the OP:

    """Is this the hope and change Europe was looking for? The sheer barbarism is hard to fathom. How many victims will it take for Europe to wake up?"""


    Now, YOU can call that anything you like(I'm sure I'll disagree) but it is what I said, a presumption that no German would ever murder anyone...
     
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    Damn, didn't even make it out of the womb before being killed by someone who shouldn't be there in the first place.
     
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    Person: a unique individual human being
    The pro-abortion side says its not murder.
    He has been charged with murder for killing the baby.
     
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    No.

    Once it's out of the women and alive, it's alive and killing it is murder.

    If it's still in the womb, it's an abortion.
     
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  12. US Conservative

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    You are hearing things that weren't said.
     
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  13. US Conservative

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    He fights men of straw, and charges windmills in his zeal to white knight the muslim baby killer/woman stabber.
     
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    :thumbsup:

    No there are often multiple charges for instance kidnapping and murder.
     
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  15. US Conservative

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    Not to be too graphic, (keeping in mind the thread topic).

    If someone were to stab a pregnant woman, killing an otherwise viable and healthy baby, just prior to birth-would that not be murder?

    Or is it an unplanned abortion?
     
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  16. Cubed

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    Yeah, but those two things denote two seperate actions.

    The two charges here refer to the same outcome. Basically using different words to say the same thing. Just odd really.
     
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    And unplanned abortion is murder. The very term "abortion" is used to denote a planned ending of life/potential.

    Same with assisted suicide and someone stabbing an old person against their will.

    Both end up with a dead person but one was planned and the other isn't.

    It's a semantic argument really, just a curious one to me.
     
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    Not well enough it seems. Im blaming it on the fact that it's Monday and I was tired lol
     
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    With the CDU Party running things in Germany, the new national 'song' is ♫ "Migrants, migrants, über ALLES!" ♫

    That's been sickeningly true with European Central Bank stooge, Kanzlerin Angela Merkel, and evidently it remains true to this day.

    [​IMG]. "Look, 'AKK', we're still dealing with TONS of 'Nazi guilt' here... got it?"
     
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  20. FoxHastings

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    A fetus is not a person (legally) until born.




    There is no "pro-abortion side".

    There is the Pro-choice side that says women should have the same rights as everyone else.

    Legal abortion is NOT murder.



    So? That has nothing to do with abortion.


    Now, why don't you take your "argument" to the appropriate forum? This thread is not about abortion.
     
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  21. US Conservative

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    Abortions can only take place under certain conditions.

    A coat hanger abortion is still illegal.
     
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  22. Cubed

    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, and defining difference is the fact that the mother wants to do it.

    If she doesn't and you continue anyway, it becomes murder

    The preference of the mother being the hinging point...
     
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  23. Bluesguy

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    You made a statement about person, not fetus

    Person: a unique individual human being

    There is a huge side.

    And that side is pro-abortion as it is practiced in this country, pro allowing babies in the womb to be killed.

    I didn't say it was, stawman.

    It has to do with the attempts to justify it.


    I commented on a current event, discuss it. He has been charged with murder, do you disagree with the charge?
     
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