Afghanistan and the real deal

Isn't any Western democratic regime always only four or five years from collapse ?

 

Right I believe your regrets went something like this...

Im sorry squatter Vogel took his family into the West Bank....

Im not even sure what it is youre accusing Nosferax of specifically, but it doesnt really matter. All that really matters is youre calling out someone else for advocating infanticide, when youve made clear that all "Zionists" are fair game...regardless of age.

 

Party change is different from governmental structure change.

 

Hmmmmmm. OK.

 

Case in point -- observe the similarities in foreign policy between Bush and Obama. A different party might hold the presidency, but the difference between them isn't that great policy-wise.

That's a far cry from the current government of Afghanistan in contrast to the Taliban.

 

You'd best refresh your memory.

I'm not accusing him of anything. He openly admits to supporting infanticide with regard to arab children and no accusation is necessary. How do your views align with your chum, Nosferax ?

 

Your condolences...how heartwarming.

Im not seeing anything of the infanticidal nature from him in this thread....please cite the quote in question and Ill be happy to bash if the shoe fits.

 

Children are just adult that haven't reach a certain age. I'm not a fan of age discrimination. I always find it funny that people will cry over your death up to a certain arbitrary point in your life and the next day, it doesn't matter anymore....

 

Actually it wasn't in this thread... It was in is silly "400 children dead blah blah blah aniversary thread".

And I stand by what I said, unlike him who can't resist the need to weasle out of what he post.

 

A bit harsh isnt it?

The issue with kids is their lack of ability to process thoughts and understand whats going on around them. Its the same reason folks should be condemned when theyre pedophiles. I mean your logic here appies to sex as well doesnt it?

 

Not really. A rape is a rape, independent of the age of the victim. It's just that with children we legislated that they can never give their consent and any sexual act is considered an aggression. I'm more than ok with that, having myself lived through it as achild.

But I find it odd that some here argues that it's ok to kill "occupiers" or jewish settler as long as they are over a certain age... Why discriminate on that criteria alone? Dead is dead and the life of someone who is considered legaly a child one day isn't worth more than the same life at 00:01AM of his 18th or 21st birthday...

 

You get the benefit of the doubt, 'relevant' as you weren't aware of the infanticidal cheerleading.

 

Ah again with that... You are really a one trick pony... Especially after the mods asked us to play nice. Seem you can't be mature enough to do that, or maybe you think that you can also command the mods to obey or disregard your transgression.

But once again, I'm not the one trying to weasle out of what I've said. I said it clearly and as I've just explained to Relevant, it will be for him to decide how to categorize me... He doesn't need your help for that, nobody will.

 

Whose fault is that, do you think ? Are you aware, for example, that the US of AIPAC recently vetoed its own policy at the UN ? Do you know the extent of kidnap, torture and bribery perpetrated by Western ' democratic ' States as revealed by Wikileaks ? Did Iraqis or Afghans or Iranians invade the West ?

 

I agree with your assessment of Afganistans' idologies. And there is no question that Afganistan needs to be brought into submission of the 22nd century.

But......
You can't change a cultute that lives with religious 5th century behavior, and expect them all to say we are educated and geneticaly capable to live and exist in modern democrat society. It is impossible.
They will come along only when they and their idologies change. Slow evloving people evolve slow.

But look at the bigger picture of the world. Sure we all want to capitalize on Afganistan's natural resources like rare earth materials. BUt the rest of the evolving and rapidly emerging countries are avoiding bisness with waring countries like the USA and isreal because they do not want to get caught in a trap of support for war. And these emerging countries never needed to be whooped into democratic submission by the USA. Hence China, South America, Mexico, India, etc....

Let's not go into colonial days please. This is a new era and not the 1200s. of war by disease carrying missionaries, and killing off the native populis.

That is why afganistan is not going to ever become a democratic like we want, and why getting involved with these tiny costly wars will deplete the USA's economy, and drive global buisness away. No to mention the Afganistan war played a big part in destrouing the once mighty powerfull USSR back in the 80s. The same thing is happening to the USA. But, people in the USA will not accept that is going on.

 

Aye to that. Although it does seem a rather long-winded way of saying ' Yanqui, go home '

 

True, when and if the troops leave. You will see the same pattern of behavior of the Afgan people, their government, and their laws.

Not much will be different. And the taliban and alqueda will wait for the next group of invadors to which they eill fight with their massive Taliban Navy and Airforce and Armor divisions.

 

US defeated retreat = civil War as in the begining we return to the POLITICAL Problem.one positive aspect of the war is that US Imperialism has Bankrupted itself,aleinated its soldiers and generally lost any pretence of being the "greatest nation on earth"or having anything to do with "Democracy".

Politically ,well Obama or the republican\tea party is the choice and they get more pathetic more hated every election.

 

History cares not for the acceptance or not of its truth.many don't accept the impact of globalised everything either.

Or that no matter the name government is, of, by and for the capitialist.