Al Jazeera reporter killed during Israeli raid in West Bank

I know you like pics .. so this one is good . Tianamen square... kind of reminds us of the brave Palestinians standing in front of Israeli Tanks .. during the bulldozing of homes in the "Occupied" territories.

I agree this is an anti -semetic beatup ... Palestinians being Semetic .. . and the Israelis doing the beat-up. .. who are also Semites .. its a blood fued .. what can we say .. other than need to put a leash on the Israel .. the pariah of the ME ..

 

You been the one asking for criminal proof .. motive is part of criminal proof mate .. and you were given 2 motives. Lost it seems are you

 

A ton is 2000 lbs .. but why are you quibbling over 1000lb or 2000 lb bomb .. dropped on a family .. did you think one was terrorism and the other was not .

Something unclear about dropping a big bomb on a family .. what is it Pooh .. that you can't figure out.. How is it that you can't understand that dropping 1000 lb bombs on crowded apartment blocks will kill civilians .. disingenuous denial on steroids mate...

 

No. The Deir Yassin and Jenin massacres never happened. Both have been debunked eons ago.

Deir Yassin, the short version:


The whole BBC two parts documentary is on YouTube: "The 50 Years War Israel and the Arabs". The relevant scenes are in Part 1, starting at 11:42. I don't post the links because three videos in one post would be a bit much, me thinks. Tell me if you want the links.

Sources for Jenin (please keep in mind that the events occurred in the midst of the second Intifada):
https://www.ngo-monitor.org/reports/operation_defensive_shield_and_the_myth_of_the_jenin_massacre/
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2002/may/06/mondaymediasection5
https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...e-truth/5c71e68f-fa63-43d2-b0a2-2b39c3774f05/

When even the aggressively anti-Israel Guardian publishes an anti-anti-Israel article, something in the anti-Israel propaganda has gone terribly wrong...

And yet, there are still those who cling to the debunked falsehoods, probably because reality doesn't confirm their biases...or should I say their obsessions.

 

Yeah... we need to know. Maybe it was an accidental explosion of one of Hamas weapons? That happens from time to time. And many more of the 4,600 rockets which reached mums, dads and kids in Israel FELL ONTO GAZA ITSELF.

 

The Deir Yassin massacre did not happen? NOTHING described in the below article happened?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre

 

You have not even given ONE motive to me. And what you mean is, what you THINK the motive MIGHT be. Not the "motive" which would be FACTUAL.

 

It seems pretty debunked really:

Gelber suggests that either the women's testimonies were a result of "the Arab propaganda machine" or that Catling was "an old and bitter enemy" of the Irgun and Lehi and fabricated the reports. The whereabouts of Catling's original reports are unknown, according to Gelber.[88]

Gelber writes that the stories of rape angered the villagers, who complained to the Arab emergency committee that it was "sacrificing their honour and good name for propaganda purposes."[89] Abu Mahmud, who lived in Deir Yassin in 1948, was one of those who complained. He told the BBC: "We said, 'There was no rape.' He [Hussayn Khalidi] said, 'We have to say this so the Arab armies will come to liberate Palestine from the Jews.'"[84] "This was our biggest mistake," said Nusseibeh. "We did not realize how our people would react. As soon as they heard that women had been raped at Deir Yassin, Palestinians fled in terror. They ran away from all our villages."[84] He told Larry Collins in 1968: "We committed a fatal error, and set the stage for the refugee problem."[90]

A villager known as Haj Ayish claimed that "there had been no rape." He questioned the accuracy of the Arab radio broadcasts that "talked of women being killed and raped", and instead believed that "most of those who were killed were among the fighters and the women and children who helped the fighters."[91] Mohammed Radwan, one of the villagers who fought the attackers, said: "There were no rapes. It's all lies. There were no pregnant women who were slit open. It was propaganda that ... Arabs put out so Arab armies would invade. They ended up expelling people from all of Palestine on the rumor of Deir Yassin."[92] Radwan added "I know when I speak that God is up there and God knows the truth and God will not forgive the liars."[92] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre#Allegations_of_sexual_violence

Arab News and Hub of Middle East Politics. Objective sources on this subject would you say? Maybe I can give you some Jerusalem Post articles to read! I'm sure that you would accept those as objective!

 

So any time that there is a bullet, witnesses and a dead body, the motive is automatically known? Wow, that's interesting. Police work must be pretty easy!

 

Wikipedia is not a reliable source.

I find this article more balanced:
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-capture-of-deir-yassin

 

I thought that you were saying that the event didn't even happen. It seems that you just object to it being labeled a "massacre." I guess it all goes down to how one defines a "massacre." In war, there is nothing wrong with 'massacring' the enemy.

 

Yes, it happened. Mistakes were made. But it was certainly not a massacre.

 

Sure Pooh ..
Israeli pilots refuse to fly assassination missions

"The 27 pilots sent a letter to the commander of Israel's airforce refusing to carry out duties, which include track and kill operations, in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. One of the pilots told Israeli television that the letter said: "We, veteran pilots and active pilots alike...are opposed to carrying out illegal and immoral attacks, of the type carried out by Israel in the territories.

"We, who have been educated to love the state of Israel refuse to take part in airforce attacks in civilian population centres. We refuse to continue harming innocent civilians."

Since August 19, Israel's airforce has killed 12 Hamas members and four bystanders. Over the past two years Israel's "targeted assassinations" have killed dozens of bystanders by using bombs wieghing up to one tonne in densely populated areas of the Gaza Strip.

Yeah Pooh .. maybe those bombs the IDF dropped were accidental Hamas explosions .. in Poohland .. where life is beautiful all the time.. did you forget the material previously given you mate .. or just pretending again

 

gave you motive . 2 of them .. perhaps you do not know what motive is .. well .. clearly not as anyone who has the faintest idea .. does not need to think very long to come up with motive .. 2 of which were given you .. previous track record being one .. dirty deeds to hide being another ..

Did you not understand that Israel has a long and sordid track record of targeting journalists .. what part of long history of targeting journalists and media did you not understand the first 5 times

 

Who told you that ? .. your having trouble understanding what you read mate .. never said any such thing .. loopy dee loo land .. up up and away !

 

Okay, well sure, you've mentioned these two things to me before, but I didn't recognise them as MOTIVES because... THEY'RE NOT MOTIVES! They are simply reasons why you think that she was killed by Israeli forces. How the hell are they motives?

 

You said: "Do we not have "motive" ? Is there not a bullet .. was there not witnesses .. is there not a dead body. What more would you need ?"

 

Why not? Do a certain number of people have to be killed before it can be considered a massacre?

 

So any time that there is a bullet, witnesses and a dead body, the motive is automatically known? Wow, that's interesting. Police work must be pretty easy

All examples of "Criminal Proof" didn't say what you claimed above.. you are making things up...attributing to me .. totally lost .. you are .. no comprehension of what you read. .. so you make up stuff that wasn't there .. and cry "you said this" Now go and figure out what the conversation is about .. get back to me when you have something coherent.

 

.. I gave you motives ... and you raged on for numerous posts crying "you gave no motives" .now you cry .. but I didn't recognize them - . what a joke..

 

The world in the UN voted Palestine to be a nation. You've been here long enough to pick up on that, and so your "understanding is that the West Bank is not yet a nation" is just a dishonest position.


While I find it utterly typical from you Pro Jewish homeland posters. "(I) Haven't even read a single article on the matter".... but you already got your opinion made up that Israel is being treated differently. What an utter joke of an opinion that shows how utterly biased you are. This is rather on par with Chelsea Manning's leaked video of gunning down 2 journalists. That coverage was massive. Contrary of that instance, Israel killed a reporter who clearly wore distinctive clothing showing to all that she was of the media, yet Israel aimed at her and killed her. Israel who refuses to do a criminal investigation into it.

Frankly, I do not believe your claim that you haven't read an article on this matter. You only say you haven't, so you can't dispute that Israel deliberately executed a reporter for doing her job. Your goal is obviously to normalize that the self proclaimed Jew state gets to murder noisy Arabic reporters, and persuade us to look the other way.

 

According to the dictionary definition, yes.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/massacre

Here's a more nuanced approach:

https://www.encyclopedia.com/international/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/massacres

 

BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT MOTIVES!

 

Well that definition doesn't say anything about the number of people.

 

Re:

If someone had been thrown out of 100 bars and ALWAYS claimed that it was ALWAYS the bar owners' fault in EVERY case, wouldn't you think that there was more to the story than you'd been told?

Before the invasion of foreign Zionist terrorist gangs, Jews and Arabs got along reasonably well (1) and, thankfully, in some cases, they still do.

Palestine's native residents which were primarily Muslims or Christians responded to the influx of militant, foreign, Zionist Jews the way anyone would react to foreign land thieves and mass killers.

Can you think of any occupied people who would not resist the longest and most brutal, foreign funded occupation in modern history?






(1) “Top Ten Myths about the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict”
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/06/17/top-ten-myths-about-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict/

EXCERPT "Myth #1 – Jews and Arabs have always been in conflict in the region.

Although Arabs were a majority in Palestine prior to the creation of the state of Israel, there had always been a Jewish population, as well. For the most part, Jewish Palestinians got along with their Arab neighbors. This began to change with the onset of the Zionist movement, because the Zionists rejected the right of the Palestinians to self-determination and wanted Palestine for their own, to create a “Jewish State” in a region where Arabs were the majority and owned most of the land.

The British Hope-Simpson report of 1930 similarly noted that Jewish residents of non-Zionist communities in Palestine enjoyed friendship with their Arab neighbors. “It is quite a common sight to see an Arab sitting in the verandah of a Jewish house”, the report noted. “The position is entirely different in the Zionist colonies."CONTINUED