Alabama’s Draconian Abortion Ban Has Women On Twitter Ready To Fight

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  1. Renee

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    I wonder how these guys would feel if their daughters or female relatives got raped. And I Wonder how they would feel if I just dismissed it with, “boys will be boys
     
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    That’s so funny. No Trump was not a liberal most of his life. He was an opportunist. But then again he’s a Republican now and a wonderful role model for her children when he curses and calls people stupid names. What class
     
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    Yes it’s just such a minor inconvenience raising a child you can’t afford for 18 years (sarcasm alert)
     
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    It’s DNA shows it is not his child he does not have to support it
     
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    No, I haven't.

    Like I said, you thoroughly disagree with @FoxHastings who believes that it's only a person upon birth. It is this that you thoroughly disagree with, nothing else. Not sure how you think I was saying that you don't think that there are arguments against personhood.

    So what are your arguments against personhood?

    What's does this have to do with personhood?
     
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    I take it that you are referring to the legally binding nature of marriage. Yes, you're obviously correct. I mean that secular marriage (which is only referring to a couple's status under law) is utterly meaningless to the relationship of the couple. It makes no difference to it.
     
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    When I say "minor" I'm being sarcastic. Saving the life of someone is obviously a VERY big deal! You asked, "What TF else would abortion be for if not convenience." Why would you even ask such a question?
     
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    Because it was immediately challenged by the court. Did you seriously think that women in Alabama were already living under this law for the past two months? Didn't you wonder why you weren't hearing about stories of women being raped and not being able to abort?
     
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    Marriage which is only recognised by the state, under the law. This makes "marriage" purely a legal term.
     
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    Not even an ATTEMPTED reply to my last reply to you? Did you get uncomfortable again?
     
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    And who would be responsible for the woman getting pregnant and giving birth if abortion was no longer available for convenience?
     
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    Is there a point at which it definitely is NOT a "microscopic clump of cells?"
     
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    Which type of conservative are you?
     
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    Is the act of getting into a car a mistake? Does the accident occur because of a relationship between the driver of each car?

    So Fathers shouldn't be forced to pay child support?
     
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    Yes you did. There is a difference between having an opinion and "thorough disagreement" While that may be the black and white world that you live in - it is not mine.

    The Neurological perspective is one. There are others. One could argue that it is not a person until it meets all the requisite characteristics of Homo sapiens ... which includes breathing air. Other Philosophical arguments claim that personhood requires certain mental attributes - google is your friend - you should try it sometime.
     
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    There is little hope for you.

    Why would a sperm donor be forced to pay child support ?
     
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    I think that everyone should have to pay for health damage caused by personal stupidity. It's the only reason that I'm against my country's universal healthcare. (Australia.) Although we do have to pay for an ambulance service. Even with universal healthcare, health damage caused by personal stupidity should be billed.
     
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    Considering that you failed miserably to defend your ridiculous analogy, it does appear that there is little hope for YOU!

    I would say that they should not be included. Can't you answer the question? Should Fathers be forced to pay child support?
     
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    Do you agree that it is only a person upon birth?

    Would you argue that?

    How could I have used Google to get YOUR arguments?
     
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    According to your person opinion. Why do you sometimes state opinion as fact?

     
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    Up until what point in the term?

    Actually, I did forget about the federal funding for health, which is the same in Australia, just on a bigger scale. I was thinking about the regulation of health, which is at the state level. Anyway, how is abortion a health matter in cases where it's not to save the life of the woman?
     
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    And you have "The Potential" to shoot people from your church bell tower...does that mean we should lock you up?
     
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    Never have I seen this level of darkness in a pot as it calls a kettle black.
     
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    When have I stated opinion as fact?
     
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    Does the life inside of a woman have the potential to commit a crime? I don't get the connection. :confused:
     
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