Alabama Democrat Lawmaker has proposed a Vasectomy Law

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  1. Red Lily

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    Careful you don't fall over :oops:
     
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    Thank you for your concern but I am quite capable of assuming a stance (rightfully) exhibiting a superior attitude without impacting my balance :p
     
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    Ya gotta get 'em born and grown before dey blue da men's balls and snip dat vas deferens.
     
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    eh! Don think it is gonna make a vas deferens to the total population;)
     
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    One, just because I disagree with something doesn't mean I am judgmental, with all do respect you do not know my approach

    There are many females aware of birth control options it isn't this BIG secret! Plus if you're going to be sexually active why wouldn't one educate themselves if they don't want a pregnancy?
     
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    How many know what a LARC is?

    How many know the failure rate of condoms? And it is THAT particular piece of reproductive health information that is sadly lacking amongst the more ardent proponents of the myth that women are using abortion as birth control

    And this was why I suggested a non judgemental approach - you yourself stated that “it gets to be a pretty heated argument”

     
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    Who needs a vasectomy when just LOOKING at that woman's face would do the trick! I'm not saying she's ugly, but kids in her district dress up as her for Halloween.

    You wanna drop the fertility rate? Just post pictures of her face in every bedroom. Seriously, I think my sperm count dropped to near-zero after looking at that post! :hiding:
     
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    There is this thing called Google, or womens centers that educate women! We are not living in the dark ages here. We have an overflow of knowledge. Why is it so difficult for you to believe people get caught up and are careless? If you're going to choose to be promiscuous it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out pregnancy could occur. Why wouldn't you do your research and plan accordingly?

    As far as it being a heated argument, there are many factors as to why, judgement wasn't a factor. I answered your question with an example, but don't assume what you don't know.

    Anyway, I stated my point of view and opinion and you stated yours. Have a good day!
     
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    Seriously?

    You want to challenge ME on this?

    Right! So let us steer into SCIENCE not unprovable claims about someone who might know someone who has a story about a neighbour or was it the cousin......... (yes so far your side is showing more than a few holes)

    Let’s start with a systematic review (you do know what they are don’t you?) Here is one done by Guttmacher institute

    https://www.guttmacher.org/journals...en-contraception-and-abortion-review-evidence

    It shows clearly that there is a relationship between availability of contraception and abortion

    This research paper is from 2005 and shows there is still ignorance in relation to reproductive health

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0010782404002689

    Hmm this is an editorial but links to the CDC recommendations

    Removing medical barriers to contraception — evidence-based recommendations from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 2016
    https://www.contraceptionjournal.org/article/S0010-7824(16)30382-1/abstract

    Time and again cost is a factor when accessing LARCs
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1877575619300588

    BTW there is this thing called google SCHOLAR............
     
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    And you look like Chris Hemsworth first thing in the morning?

    It keeps blowing me away how many focus on looks rather than substance
     
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    Some of those policies were in effect in the 1920s with the eugenics movement and pushed by Margaret Sanger.

    Today, the nuts want to kill humanity to save the planet. That is their goal. https://reason.com/2006/04/03/to-save-the-planet-kill-90-per/
     
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    This was a qualitative research study from Australia looking at where women accessed contraceptive information and although the internet was used......

    https://www1.racgp.org.au/ajgp/2019/june/factors-influencing-young-womens-contraceptive-cho

    There is some astonishingly bad information out there - a lot of it from the more radical “pro-life” sites.........

    https://www.iflscience.com/health-a...atal-natural-birth-control-advice-goes-viral/
     
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    That is maybe how things are in Australia, however in America resources and women's health centers are widely available. I mean look how quickly you pulled up a study. You knew to research. Why can't anyone else?

    I am not one who supports defunding Planned Parenthood because they offer a lot of the resources and help low income women, it's not just abortions. They supply birth control to women who can't afford it and work with them. Many Conservatives disagree with me on that point, but it is true. If a woman chooses to be sexually active she can get a free consult at Planned Parenthood, there are other clinics as well, PP is just the most known one.

    Birth control is needed and both parties are responsible. I don't even put it all on the women though. So many men pressure women to let them have sex unprotected and will just "pull out" , yet some don't want to be there if the woman gets pregnant, but the women also cave to the request. Both men and women should be fully aware a pregnancy can occur if you are careless in your sexual activity, and should take necessary precautions. However, men can bail and they do sadly, women can't bail so women need to take extra precautions to prevent an unwanted pregnancy. It's a sad reality, but it is reality nonetheless.
     
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    Ah don’ care who you is, that thar is funny. :)
     
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    Where is your research supporting this opinion?

    You want American research - then provide it

    Unfortunately your post exhibits many of the concerning knowledge gaps that are common on the internet.

    Mate not many can critique the information they are receiving which is the difference between “googling” something and being able to offer up a systematic review
     
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    If you bothered to read about the situation it is a protest by the female lawmaker over the numerous attempts by her fellow lawmakers to control women’s reproductive rights in her state. She knows it can never become law but wants to draw attention to how men in her state want control over women, but would never allow the reverse to happen.

    Is she wrong? No.
     
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    You're telling us?

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    False comparison. Presumably she was up when her picture was taken. Your post only works if that picture of ol' stone-face was taken first thing in the morning. In any event, while I'm not Chris Hemsworth I can assure you that I look better than her when I wake up. Okay - just asked my wife. She agrees. There ya go.

    Also, commenting on the looks of famous people? Surely you've known that's fair game here for awhile now. Would you like some quotes from LW-ers here making disparaging statements regarding the looks of Republican luminaries here to prove that? Hey, what about THIS quote where someone makes a crack about a whole group of people and how they look?

    Oh yeah, keep lecturing us about proper netiquette, Bowerbird. We'll be right there throwing your own quotes right back at you. And thanks in advance for the laughs!

    All I know for sure is when that public official goes out in public, she makes blind children cry.
     
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    Reproductive rights exist, they occur before life is created.
     
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    It's not an opinion, it's pretty well known common knowledge in America. What part of the argument are you wanting research on specifically?

    I honestly don't know anyone that doesn't know anything I stated above...
     
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    So all you right wingers cannot wait for authoritarian government that will remove all free will choices from you???You might just have your boy in Dirty Donald who now is running our justice department.
     
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    No if it is not backed by research it is an opinion and because you personally do not know something is neither here nor there in the realms of real proof

    Show me the research
     
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    Is this where we post a repeat of the Monty Python song “Every Sperm is Sacred”?
     
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    I will repeat what specifically do you want research on? Planned Parenthood? Services WIDELY available? I said a lot so I am asking you a specific...thanks
     

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