Alternative Cancer Treatments

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  1. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Last August, I noticed a lump developing in the corner of my left eye and my nose. I have always been self employed and I chose not to have health insurance at this particular time. At that point, I went to an eye clinic and saw an ophthalmologist who suggested that I get an MRI. I went to a private clinic and paid $500 for an MRI. Three days later, I got the results which described the mass and said it could possibly be lymphoma or a few other less serious conditions. I decided in October to open enroll at Kaiser Permanente in order to deal with this. On January 5, I went to Kaiser Woodland Hills Ca. For my initial physical at which my primary doctor referred me to an ophthalmologist surgeon to get a biopsy. 5 days after the biopsy which was taken on February 10th I was informed that I had Squamous Cell Carcinoma. A while lateraround February 19th, I was sent to Kaiser in Los Angeles to meet with their team of oncologists, surgeons and chemo and radiation technicians. After being examined by this team, I was informed that their recommendation was to remove the whole eye socket and my left eye in a major disfiguring operation that would not completely guarantee a cure. I thought it seemed pretty midevil and immediately started a protocol of self treatment which I had already researched.

    When I took my physical at Kaiser in January, I was in pretty bad physical condition even for a 64 yo. I was overweight, about 90kg or 198lbs and I am only 5:11. I received calls from my primary physician who had prescribed several medications to treat high cholesterol levels, early stage diabetes etc. I declined t take them and instead changed my diet and mmdiately. My research had led me to change my diet and start a regimen of cannibus oil consumption and topical application of same. I began this protocol and diet change on February 25th and have rigidly stayed with it to date, May 6. I now weigh 75kg or 163lbs and I feel better than I have in decades. When I first started the treatments, I had a linear incision on my nose which was secured by 6 small dissolving stitches. When the stitches dissolved, instead of leaving a linear scar, the incision, which was right over the tumor opened up into a round open sore which was very tender to the touch and pretty nasty looking. I started applying CBD oil and three different THC cannibus oils along with a silver nitrate solution that I have been using for years to help heal cuts and scrapes. Within three days the open wound healed and fresh healthy skin covered it not even leaving a scar. I can still feel the tumor, but it seems to be dead tissue at this point....(I hope) I had a PET scan after the oncologists recommended my eye be removed to see if the cancer had spread to other areas. The PET scan revealed that there was no other cancer in my body besides the tumor near my eye. I am scheduled for another MRI later this month. After seeing/ hearing the results I will then reevaluate my situation. Any advice, questions or comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jack
     
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    You said you are already using cannabis oil, both kinds, including CBC. But regular cannabis oils are not all created equal. I have had one friend and one family member use Phoenix Tears, promoted by that canadian who used to grow cannabis, Indica, and extracted the oil from these indica plants with the solvent, naptha. Once you evaporate the solvent using a rice cooker, that cooks at low heat, you pull the oil up into a syringe, once you take off the needle, and allow it to cool into a paste. Then you start out with a squirt half the size of a grain of rice and work your way up to larger doses, several time a day. You would have to check his book or online to find out how long you stay with this and how much you need to get up to in grams or milligrams each day of this stuff. And you must use indica and not sativa. Very important.

    I have personally seen one friend and one family member cure cancer using this stuff. The friend had lung cancer, and the family member had skin cancer. On the skin cancer he just applied the paste to the area affected and covering it with a bandage or bandaid. And both have seen success. I don't know if it works for everyone, but it sure worked for them. In fact, the health benefits exceeded just the cancer cure, or perhaps the regression of those cancers. But neither have them today.

    Not all cannabis oil is extracted in the same way. After the extraction, the heat from evaporating the solvent also creates a chemical change in the oil, which means it has to reach a particular temp for this to happen. So this is why not all oils are created the same. And of course, you do not vape or smoke the oil, but you have to consume it by mouth.

    Good luck!
     
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    The cannibus oils I use are prepared by a laboratory using the Rick Simpson oil (Phoenix Tears) system but they are produced without some of the chemicals. Cannibus oil is quite easy to get here in California. I use three different THC oils and two different CBD oils. Too bad our government has prevented any research on these lifesaving products. I guess we are left to fend for ourselves.
     
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    Well, Rick will tell you that some who claim to use his oils are not making it as he did. The naptha or alcohol extraction must be used, and then a particular degree of heat used to evaporate the naptha, which also does something to the oil which makes it effective whereas another extraction method, that does not use heat, but room temp evaporation does not produce what he made and had tremendous success with. In fact, he had used someone elses oil once, and it did not work. For the extraction was different. When the guy he gave it to saw no results, his crop came in and he gave the guy his oil and it worked. BTW Rick never sold his oil, that he made from the indica plants that he grew. He always gave it away to people that needed it. The devil is in the details.

    Yes, it is a crime how some states and the feds treat cannabis. That people in my area have to break the law to try to get cured from cancer and other things is so sad. Big Pharma don't like us having medications that work, unless we buy it from them. And they hate cannabis for you or I can grow it and extract our own oils. For the cost of a few seeds, a rice cooker, and a gallon of the proper solvent.

    Seriously, you should make sure you use an indica cannabis oil, extracted using naptha or alcohol, and then the right temp heat to evaporate the solvent which for naptha takes hours. Lots of oil producers prefer faster extraction and reduction for obvious reasons. Simpson says to insure you get the right oil, make it yourself, using his recipe. And your life is at stake, so dot the I's and cross the T's given what is at stake. I know it works on some people and particular cancers for I saw it with my own eyes. It is unbelievable. My friend's doctor said miracles happen, and he attributed it to a miracle and not the oil. lol He did not want to believe cannabis got rid of the early state of lung cancer.

    Some people fighting cancer will also change their diet, and there are sources online to diets that are supposed to help fight cancer. I have cancer as we speak, but I will not take the risk of making my own oil, or growing my own, so I can make it, for I would just as soon die from this cancer than to risk being sent to our prisons here in Ms. at my age, of 76. If I were in one of those states out west, I might be able to beat this cancer with the right cannabis indica oil.
     
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    The main way to test these products is to test them for THC content and CBD content. The products I use have been lab certified. The CBD is much rarer as the pot used to make it does not get you very high and most growers are looking for very high THC content. Rick Simpson is an advocate of high doses of THC and does not know much about CBD which is being effectively used to save children with epilepsy and other conditions. I am taking very high doses of Lab tested 70% THC oil every day along with the CBD as I/we are not sure which turpines from these different oils are most effective against the particular type of tumor I have. So for now, it's overkill.
     
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    Yes, simpson only knows what he has used works. And he stresses the great importance of a particular degree of heat being used in evaporation of solvent. He called it something, the technical name of what is happening to the chemistry of the oil, from the heat. Too high a heat destroys the curative functions of the indica oil, too low, the process does not take place in the chemistry. I think this may be a very essential and important factor which is why I am stressing it so much, being so redundant. I just want you to use the right oil and lab stats are not showing the chemical process that heat creates at the proper temp. And also this is the reason that he has stated online it is best to make your own to insure you are getting the right thing, for he said many of these producers of oil, even when they state it is his oil, are not extracting it using his method. You would literally have to watch who supplies your oil to find out, given the easier methods of extraction being used today. Co2 extraction, butane extraction, and so on.

    BTW once the naptha solvent is heated off to evaporate, there is nothing left behind which is harmful. Naptha was used for years to clean felt hats and to dry clean clothing. It does not leave behind its odor. And I dunno, if it does leave something behind, that may be just a part of why ricks oil has seen success time and time again which he has documented in his book, Phoenix Tears.
     
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    This is mainstream stuff, not fringe: Ketogenic diets, like Atkins, have been shown to have anti-cancer benefits, and may even kill some cancers.

    Ketogenic diets as an adjuvant cancer therapy: History and potential mechanism
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4215472/

    The anti-cancer benefits of pot are just starting to come to light. But highly reputable researchers are arriving at this conclusion. The leading institute for this in Israel is the same one that first identified the THC molecule.
     
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    Thanks for your input. The people I get my cannibus oil from are involved with Israeli scientists. I am following the Budwig diet, which is very low on sugars and refined carbohydrates. Mainly consists of freshly squeezed vegetable juices, vegetables, some fruit and high quality, mainly plant based proteins.
     
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    The key to ketogenic diets is ketosis. Ketones have been shown to be toxic to some tumors. But you really have to restrict the carbs to enter ketosis - less than 50 grams a day. I don't know if the Bugwig diet puts you into ketosis.

    Reducing glucose and insulin levels is also key. Both are crucial to the growth and spread of cancers. After entering ketosis for a time there is a more lax maintenance regimen.

    PS: Never never never less than 20 grams of carbs per day. You have to do your homework on this or you can hurt yourself. There is a minimum requirement for brain function... and other critical processes.
     
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    The diet I am on is rich in healthy carbohydrates such as fresh fruits in limited amounts, avocados, green vegetables and freshly juiced vegetables. I am also consuming large amounts of turmeric, coacoa powder, berries, raw nuts and seeds etc. After losing 38 pounds, I am now gaining back some weight by consuming enough calories to maintain the 160 plus 350 calories a day to slowly gain up to 170...In order to do that I have to eat 2550 calories a day. From what I have learned, it isn't so much how many calories you consume but rather the quality of those calories. What I an eating now is perfectly balanced and super healthy.
     
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    Well, for what it's worth, that does not derive the anti-cancer benefits thought to be associated with ketogenic diets. It is all about ketosis. And that requires the severe restriction of carbs, good or bad. It is a change in the fundamental metabolic process of your body - using fatty acids as your primary source of energy, rather than glucose.
     
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    There are several theories regarding ketogenic diets. Dr. Atkins championed this diet and it really works well for weight loss. However in my opinion it is hard on your organs and acidifies your system. I am if the belief after years of research that a more alkaline diet is better for general health which promotes a stronger immune system to fight cancer and other afflictions.
     
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    They are talking using diet, as Chemotherapy. Don't know much about that, but oxygen, in the cells, kills cancer, so all the weight you lose is important, so you have less plumbing to run. Exercise and good thoughts. I bet that saves more than a few, just getting healthy habits.

    Interesting, using silver nitrate, to corrode slowly, just that parts you want gone, instead of the radical. I would think Retin A might help in some way.
     
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    Yes, acid, is a ripe environment for cancer cells. And sugar should be cut to nothing. Cept for juices. Even then.

    They have an alkaline water machine that might help.
     
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    It does seem like there is a gritty substance that comes out of my eye in the morning after applying the oils and silver nitrate solution before bed. I am hoping the grit is the tumor is coroding away. I would really like to inject the oils directly into the tumor as it is right on the surface but so far, I haven't found anyone with the guts to do it..I would not be surprised if a few injections of sodium bicarbonate into the tumor would kill it.
     
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    I drink about 64oz of alkaline water every day and mix in apple cider vinegar into it. I also mix baking soda with water and drink it a couple times a day.
     
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    Here is a radical thought. DONT puncture the tumor, whatever you do. Kill around it, and shrink it, till it is operable without too much scarring. Using alternative till an easy slice.
     
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    Thanks for your input. Why are you so opposed to injecting the tumor with a couple ccs of medicine using a very small gage needle? I am at this point trying to saturate the tumor by putting the cannibus oil directly in my eye and swishing it around the socket and applying it generously on the skin that is directly over the tumor as I have been told that these oils will permeate the skin. I just wish I could make it disappear or dissolve faster. I will find out later this month after an MRI if the tumor has changed since my last scan a couple months ago.
     
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    The body uses a tumor sheath, to sequester the evil. Don't let it out, you metastasize it. So, let that nasty sac remain, as a receptacle. While getting healthy tissue around it. If the tumor does not rupture, it could grow slowly, particularly a slow skin cancer. You topical slow death of the bad tissue, is too time indulgent for REAL medicine. But you could invent a new approach. Self heal. IF you kill all around the tumor, then there is no longer a need to cut around, but stay only to the sheath.
     

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