America is progressing...there is NO Presidential candidate who is anti-LGBT rights-

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Well, that is really a political party that is doing that. There are a lot of lemmings that tend to like that set up, because if people are racist or anti-gay the lemmings don't have to feel responsible for their actions.
    Are their two Australias? If they are spelled the same how do you know which one is which?
     
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    The second Australia does not like sloppy seconds, that is how they tell them apart.
     
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    That's because there are far more severe issues in this election than LGBT, particularly when you consider that after the transgender elementary school bathroom fiasco the LGBT's are laying low trying not to become a laughing stock.
     
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    There have always been greater issues than denying gay people rights but it was a central republican platform anyway... Gay people are not 'laying low'; they are getting married, having children, and worrying about the upcoming election like everyone else.
     
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    Considering how people making the bathroom issue a debate as far as who can use what bathroom is about as farcical or a laughing stock as it can get, all you need is a unisex private bathroom anyone can use.

    Perfect solution to a non existent problem.
     
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    True for companies that can build or rename a bathroom as unisex. Yet the LGBT's declared that solution unacceptable. That's because they are not interested in actually solving a problem. The "transgender bathroom" issue is a contrived problem invented to create an issue which allows the LGBT's to push their agenda, the LGBT's want to break down the moral aspects of male/female bathroom concept.
     
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    That's impossible, who even shares a toilet stall ? Nobody, thats who.

    A bit of inexpensive bathroom design is all that is required, Businesses already spend fortunes every year redesigning new displays and other parts of the Business, my local Supermarket already has only one Unisex bathroom for all it's customers, this has never been an issue.

    All that has to be done is shift away from communal open stalled bathrooms that are traditionally Male and Female to private Unisex bathrooms anyone can use.

    This is all Political posturing and quite Ridiculous, there is nothing new about the Unisex bathroom, the first Outhouse was unisex, and before that, people dug a hole.

    Very simple solution.
     
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    That is so ignorant. It is not so simple as " shift away from communal open stalled bathrooms that are traditionally Male and Female to private Unisex bathrooms" for existing buildings. Who pays for that renovation?

    And why should anyone have to do that renovation anyway? Its a waste of money and time. Males use the Men's restroom, females use the Women's. There is no more simpler solution than that one.

    And again, why should anyone have to do that renovation anyway? How many "transgenders" are there? Next to none. Its stupid to have the nation rework for a nonexistent problem.

    And finally, people should refuse to make that change. People should stand up to the utterly ridiculous impositions of the govt and the weird little agenda groups. Where I work, they refuse to make the change, and have turned down contracts that have "transgender acceptance" clauses.

    Time to call idiots the idiots they are.
     
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    You are also among that number, if ignorance were virtue, you would be a Saint.

    There is nothing new here in the bathroom situation, very easily resolved, and it was already solved, just like they did with changing rooms in many clothing stores, also is Unisex.

    The cost is minimal and in many cases simply a sign change.
    I did that recently, changed the bathroom signs from male & female to
    Unisex, nobody cared or even noticed the change.

    I paid for the signs.
     
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    Yes, as I previously wrote, its easy if you already have single use bathrooms. If you do not have single use but have the usual multi use, then its not at all easy to switch the sign or remodel.


    And why should anyone bow to the LGBT's anyway? Its time people stop acting like sheep, stop acting like there are no standards, stop tolerating asinine political concepts such as a man is a woman. Somewhere in a back room are a couple of people laughing their asses off saying "These people are so stupid, we actually made them admit men were women and then had them change the bathroom signs! What morons! hahahahah"
     
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    Well, Mike Pence is pretty anti-LGBT, and Trump has said that he would appoint traditional conservative Supreme Court justices (who would, presumably, act against LGBT interests), but there isn't anyone blatantly 'They're going to hell' aside from aforementioned Mike Pence, so... sure?
     
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    You can always tell how backwards a person is on a few issues like this bathroom debate.

    It is not about LGBT Rights per say, it is all about power & control baloney.
    The power to unfairly restrict some as elemental as bathroom use, simply because you can.

    If you have bathrooms anyone can use, then there is nothing left to fight about, it is not about cost either, McDonald's and Bugger King all spend countless Millions of Dollars every year on renovations and other cosmetics, and very little on improving bathrooms, yet somebody is going to argue about the cost which would be minimal, and serve EVERYONES needs.

    You can always tell the uptight Liberal that does not want to admit everyone has a Right to use the bathroom, regardless of their Sexual orientation or lack thereof, Unisex bathrooms just make sense.
     
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    Throughout the long and awful campaign, some were suggesting, even insisting, that Trump would be a pro-LGBT president. This was based on such things as the fact that he attended a same sex wedding at some point, that he said that he would protect gays from Islamic extremists, that he said he would allow Caitlin Jenner to use the woman's room at Trump Towers and the fact that Peter Thiel and other misguided gay folks support him.

    All along, I insisted that regardless of what he may have done or said in the past, he is now beholden to the religious right and alt- right bigots and will act accordingly as president. He will pit groups against each other - such as gays and Muslims- the latter of which he harbors slightly more disdain for than the former- to score points.

    Now, in the days following the election, we already are seeing the direction the administration is going in and it does not bode well for LGBT people:

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    There is much, much more and it will only get worse.....IT'S DISGUSTING
     
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    I've never gotten the feeling that Trump himself is hostile to LGBT folks. He most certainly had no problem with being categorized that way since it broadened his appeal to those of his base who are, just like he did with the racist stuff. But just like with the racist stuff, I can't point to any real examples that he is anti-homosexual.

    I doubt he's sympathetic either. I figure, like with most social issues, he's apathetic. In his world, gay folks don't really affect him. Nor is he religious. And lets face it, Trump isn't the guy who's gonna bang on the family values drum. He has no real reason to be out to get them. But he's also not going to be a guy who stands up for them either if Pence tries some of his kookery.
     
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    Same sex marriage support is nearing 3/5 support. Gay rights in general is nearing 3/4 support.
    I really don't see them mustering the support to revoke ssm, a pro-hate "religious freedom" bill is probable but will be dismantled after it blows up on the same people that support it - after all it would apply to all religions not just Christians and if they specifically name gay people as a target even a conservative court would strike it down.

    The gay issue is slowly being removed from the conservative platform. Trumps speech on protecting LGBT people makes me believe he supports equality more than he lets on, the bigots still require it so he had to pander to get votes.

    Let's see how it goes - I have a feeling everyone will be surprised

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    Same sex marriage support is nearing 3/5 support. Gay rights in general is nearing 3/4 support.
    I really don't see them mustering the support to revoke ssm, a pro-hate "religious freedom" bill is probable but will be dismantled after it blows up on the same people that support it - after all it would apply to all religions not just Christians and if they specifically name gay people as a target even a conservative court would strike it down.

    The gay issue is slowly being removed from the conservative platform. Trumps speech on protecting LGBT people makes me believe he supports equality more than he lets on, the bigots still require it so he had to pander to get votes.

    Let's see how it goes - I have a feeling everyone will be surprised
     

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