American Family Association Sending Men into Womens Room

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/anti-lgbt-group-testing-target-restrooms_us_5727928ce4b01a5ebde63950

So how does the AFA protest Target's new bathroom policy? By doing exactly what they say they are afraid will happen. Well...guess what? You're the only ones sending men into the womens room. Doesn't that make the AFA the threat they keep harping on about?

In my opinion this is just another sensation piece for these people. They are nothing but moral majority pushers who want to stir up trouble. We see that in the way the choose to conduct themselves. They rail again men entering the womens bathroom and then send men into the womens bathroom. Its ridiculous.

 

well according to the store policy, they aren't doing anything wrong... so whats the problem if the store is exercising its legal rights, as well as those people who clearly feel the need to use the womens rest room? are you just upset, because this isn't working out how you said it would work out? because they are demonstrating the very problem they are complaining about, and putting into action a clear "protest" to highlight the flaws of this type of policy?

I mean who are you or I to judge who they identify as? this is what you want right? the freedom of people to express themselves? they are expressing themselves...

I don't deny we can make a fair assumption they are likely straight males entering the womens rest room incorrectly... but thats the whole problem of these laws and policies, we have no way to verify or judge each individual case to assure nobody is abusing this practice... thats all they want, some sort of guarantee... some have suggested going to the lengths to get your drivers license or birth certificate changed would be accepted, however I say it should be illegal for a store or police to demand "papers please" to prove you're not committing a crime if they have no other knowledge or suspicion...so whats left for us to do? single stall toilets that can't be shared... thee end...

 

So their plan is to traumatize people to create a problem, because one doesn't currently exist. Then they are going to complain about the trauma they themselves caused?

 

You know you've lost the war when you've been reduced to sending men into women's bathrooms. Frankly, on a very human level and beyond the embarrassing and headshaking, it is sad and pathetic. Grown men reduced to this. Sad.

 

We've been saying that all along, it's you guys who disagreed and wanted them in there, now you've got it. Happy?

 

So you do have an issue with people in the wrong bathroom? Interesting.

 

First wedding cakes and now toilets....good to see the left has their priorities....lolz!

 

Sounds like you have no issue with transgenders using the bathroom of choice.
Seeing as you have no issue with non transgenders lying to use their bathroom of choice. I wonder if this is also a Christian group.

 

It seems you are.
So this issue can now be laid to rest.
It was straight men all along who wanted to get into the women's bathrooms. And now these straight, assumed Christian men, are happy like you seem to be.

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Do you? Interesting.

 

You think the AFA is left? I bet they are far right and Christian.

 

I clearly stated what I think should happen... society should change to bathrooms of a single toilet, single sink, single door... and we just have rows of those, so that ALL people are able to pursue happiness in their own way without compelling or forcing their beliefs on others... its the only fair and equitable solution that neither side wants, they both want a "win" instead to push their ideology on the other... why do NONE of you ever recognize what I state as the logical and fair solution for all?

but at no point did I state whether I agree or disagree with transgenders in the bathrooms... instead I provided a SOLUTION for all sides... where nobody is discriminated...

P.S. do you have a problem with equitable solutions for ALL americans, or do you only want solutions you ideologically agree with and want to compel that upon other free people?

P.S.S. do you believe the "transgender" student below should be in the womens locker room and sauna? seems to me, he looks exactly like the "men" entering the target bathroom... I started another thread on this very video and topic in my own city... does this person look like they belong in the male or female bathroom? kind of puts a face on what women are facing in the womens bathrooms and locker rooms... if I was them, I might prefer to have a private changing area if this transgender entered... is that so wrong, for women to want a private changing area?

http://www.politicalforum.com/political-opinions-beliefs/454842-transgender-student-says-shes-been-discriminated-against-school-locker-room.html

[video=youtube;YNrpoWNWeG8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNrpoWNWeG8[/video]

 

It is very likely the single stall bathrooms will be the future. Or a 3rd option.
As for the video, I don't know. I will lean towards the mens' locker room. Locker rooms are different than bathrooms. Maybe once his genitalia gets cut, I may have a different view. But then I don't know what kind, if any, package this guy/gal has.

 

wait so you want to discriminate against this transgender person?

I thought you were supporting transgender people a second ago? or was I wrong and you don't support them? I don't want to put words in your mouth so perhaps you can elaborate on your support... are you suggesting there are times when people who are biologically male, should not enter areas for people who are biologically female?

would cutting the genitalia be your measurement of a man and woman? what about child molesters who have been castrated? that means under your new scenario they could enter the womens locker rooms now... or let me guess, this is ANOTHER "unintended consequence" of trying to find a solution other than biological separation?

like I said, the only fair and equitable solution, is a single toilet, single sink, single door, single occupant rest room and changing room... its the only way to ensure all parties are protected and not discriminated against... it'll be quite costly and someone should put in a building code today that makes this a requirement now... and we'll have to give all other public and private places a time period in which to absorb the cost and modify their facilities... 5 years for public and 10 years for private... or they can opt out of any modifications by simply no longer providing access to these areas... in which case nobody has to do anything and we all have to learn to pee at home...

 

I was supporting nothing a minute ago. I was mocking a christian group trying to make a point like small children would.
Sending real men into women's bathrooms to try to make some point.

Then I gave you my real answer on the issue. I don't know.
Transgender is a mix of a male/female. How we handle their bathroom and locker needs, I am not sure. The person in the video didn't seem as effeminate as other transgenders I've seen.
How is one to take you serious, you want to compare child molesters to transgender. You want to come off as someone to be taken serious and then you fling stuff like that?

 

Exactly. Seems brilliant right. Complain about a problem that doesn't exist...so create the problem yourself.

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The AFA are creating the very problem they claim to be against.

 

Next they'll be sending people to impersonate black, poor and college student voters to prove their is a massive voting fraud problem. And God help us all if they decide that the 2nd Amendment needs help. Embarrassing and juvenile.

 

Pointing out absurdity by being absurd is a time honored technique.

Women need to protest this invasion of their privacy and safety. Men are pigs. Target needs to be punished for this and their banning of the Salvation Army 5 years ago. I don't shop there. You shouldn't either.

 

You lose the issue when you must decry the same policy yo advocate.

Own this. Creepy men will abuse this sanction. Women will suffer. And leftists don't effing care.

 

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You're on the right track. AFA's ulterior motives are extremely suspect. The group has made it known that they oppose the public uni-sex bathroom concept. They want to "punish" Target by drawing as much attention to the possible drawbacks of this concept. The Right to Privacy vs The Right of Free Expression.

 

Wrong. They're taking advantage of your own political correctness and proving the very thing you said never happens can, will and is happening. The only difference is they're telling you they're doing it.

Why aren't you cheering? You have men in the girl's room, this should be a happy day for you.

 

So then you admit that they are the ones who are creating the problem they said would happen.

 

They didn't create the problem of allowing men in the girls room.

 

Very intolerant of you to suggest these people aren't actually gender confused weirdos.

Thought we had an open mind about all this?

 

I believe they're doing what target says they can.

Last time I was there (before they banned concealed carry) I would take a big dump in the women's restroom (usually cleaner).

Now I can use the clean restrooms whenever i want? Score!

 

I can't help but think that men have been the most vocal in this loo nonsense. How paternalistic.