American Men Risk Lives to Find Love Abroad

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  1. 1stworldview

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    Mass protests. Snipers. Political unrest. The threat of martial law. Nothing seems to dissuade American men from traveling to Ukraine in search of love.

    Ukraine, that little country whose borders are currently under siege by masses of Russian troops to the East, has been in the news a lot lately. A time-line of critical events in the country's last 6 months would read something like: November: Ukrainian President abandons bid to join European Union / Pro EU - Anti Government Protests Develop as thousands of protesters gather in Independent Square, Kiev. December: As protests grow to 300,000, activists seize government buildings. January: Draconian anti-protests laws are enacted, then repealed as protests grow. February: Protesters are shot by Ukrainian secret police, almost 100 people die. President Yanukovich is overthrown and leaves country. Russian troops amass on the Ukrainian borders. Armed men seize Crimean airport. March: Russia invades Crimea, fires warning shots to unarmed Ukrainian soldiers trying to recapture Crimean airport. Mass protests, supporting both sides, organize and march in city centers throughout Ukraine. April: Russia threatens to invade other cities in Ukraine's Eastern front. Indeed, the political situation in Ukraine is unstable and volatile enough to erupt into chaos in any given area and at any given time.

    But why should any of that stop a determined guy from getting on a plane to go right to the heart of conflicted areas to find a wife!

    A number of undeterred Romeo's, armed with a US passport and all the objectivity of a bull elk during rutting season, are getting aboard planes bound for Ukraine's far east. Their mission: to court, seduce and ultimately marry one of the thousands of beautiful Ukrainian women who may be more determined than ever to find a husband and get out of Dodge. Phoenix-based A Foreign Affair, the last international dating company to still operate group romance travel tours to Ukraine, offers their clients the opportunity to at least travel together with the support of an American tour leader and savvy locals to cities like Kiev, where AFA started conducting romance tours 15 years ago. A romance tour, lest you haven't heard, is a 10 day, tightly orchestrated singles event where 2 dozen guys get the chance to meet literally hundreds of foreign women through a series of parties and individually arranged dates. CEO John Adams gets a daily briefing from staff abroad each morning, and then picks up his phone to clue in his upcoming tour clients. "We've taken double, even triple the precautions in making sure our guys are well informed of the risks as well as the rewards of travel to Ukraine right now," Adams says, "including offering a complete refund all money if they decide to back out, and it's clear that nothing is going to stop them from getting on that plane. It's almost as if the more serious the situation gets in Ukraine, the more determined these guys are to go. We're obviously concerned and doing as much as we can to present the facts to our guys, but until the situation reaches a level truly life-threatening, as long as they want to go, we'll go." Adams also told us of a romance tour currently underway in the cities of Dnepropetrovsk and Zaparozhye where socials have been attended by a "record number of women."

    Virtually every city in Ukraine has experienced some level of protests or unrest, albeit with very few injuries or arrests per se. People on the ground are saying despite what you see in the news each day, life goes on. People go to work, come home, take their kids to swimming lessons, meet friends for a dinner out at the cafe.

    Are guys making their way to the front-lines going to get extra credit from Ukrainian ladies for making such a monumental effort? "I don't know about that," says Cory, an AFA tour client from the midwest, "but come to think of it I have been dumped by women before who left me for active military guys. It was like - 'this guy gets shot at so he's manlier.' I mean seriously - what is that!" When asked if he was aware of the imminent risks involved in traveling to Ukraine for love - versus other, more peaceful destinations like the Philippines, one would-be foreign bride finder laughed. "Oh, sure. Absolutely. But there may not be a better time to try this. Think of the impact all of this has had on Ukrainian women, many of whom struggle to find a reliable life-mate in the best of times. If there's gonna be any kind of a coup detat while I'm there - I hope I'm the one being occupied."
     
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    If I had the money I'd go myself.

    But that's just me.

    You see, whenever an American goes anywhere in Europe of the rest of the world they face hostility and bigotry because of people like Former President Bush. There is a fair amount of hostility over there.

    So really, everywhere you go.
     
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    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    That reaks of desperation - if a woman would have to be caught up in a civil war before considering dating you, then what's that say about your "game"? lol

    Personally I'd rather have been a virgin for life then ever stoop to practically begging a woman just to have sex with me, but that's just me - I think I'm "old school"
     
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    A little bit, sure, but more like misogyny.

    You see, American women set their standards way too high these days, and men like me, well, we can't get anywhere because we don't meet those standards.

    I really don't understand why they have those standards despite the excuses I've heard, but there you go.

    A lot of American women these days suck, and there's a lot of man hating feminists to wade through.
     
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    I'd recommend reading self-development books and learning more about how to talk or act around women versus worrying about "how much money you make", how "cool a car you drive", whether you have a bodybuilder-like physique or not, etc - in the long run that will go a much longer way than just "having the coolest car/motorcycle" at the bar
     
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    I have. Didn't wash. Thanks for the advice.

    I'm just not the kind of guy American women want, and never will be.
     
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    You'd be suprised to know what you're actually up against.

    Go read the Craiglists personals for "men seeking women" if you want to feel better about yourself. The other day I saw an entry by a guy who said he was a 24 year old virgin who'd been in a relationship with his girlfriend for 6 years but never had sex (and just now discovered she'd been cheating the whole time) - and then posts a penis pic asking women online to give him "revenge sex". Yeah, stuff like that.
     
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    You know, that is a sad thing, but i really don't want to look at things like that.

    Another sad thing too is guys in prison for raping and killing women get more actions than guys like me and guys on Craigslist.

    Which is something I don't understand.

    Ah well.
     
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    Most of them "get more action yeah", but they're usually on the receiving end.
     
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    Just a thought, but have you ever considered that YOU might be the one setting YOUR standards too high? There are a lot of single women in America and there aren't enough supermodels to go around so....

    I'm just saying, I don't know you so I don't know, but could it be a possibility?
     
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    Actually I have considered that, and no, I don't think so.

    I'm not so hung up on looks as most Americans seem to be.. I don't want a bossy or manipulative witch, I've been around too many of those, and I'd like her to be my partner, friend and companion who shares several interests with mine. I'm not interested in being the boss either. I'm not a chauvinist. I'd also like her to be sciency. Other than that i'm fairly open. I don't want a complete copycat of mine either. I also want a women who will allow me to be myself and not try to change me into something I'm not. I also want a woman who will not take it personally over mere disagreements in opinions and beliefs and react with insults and other forms of hostility. I've had enough of that crap with just too many people.

    For instance, my favorite character in Buffy The Vampire Slayer was Willow. I really liked her. a lot. I'm truly mystified at what they did to her. And in Fringe I really liked Astrid Farnsworth and thought she was really cute and very intelligent.

    I do not want to be in a one way relationship and regardless of how I might feel, I absolutely refuse to be in one anymore.

    I don't think those are too high of standards. I could be wrong.
     
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    Good luck. It's hard enough finding single women, let alone ones with brains. The dating game is entirely slanted towards women because all they have to do is exist whereas a guy has to be there at the right time (two week window maybe) and the best guy around her. Once you are out of college you're basically SOL. The best you can do is keep going out, keep talking to girls, and with any luck you'll find one that's single, and with a whole lot more luck you guys will actually like each other. As is though if you're not married by 25, well you're in the same boat as me; wondering what the (*)(*)(*)(*) you did wrong. I actually have the advantage of not having to wonder; I joined the Army and when I came home my small group guy friends had already paired off with a small group of girl friends. I've been trying ever since. Had fun and all don't get me wrong, but I'd give up threesomes and random bar girls for a good woman any day. Again though anyone that is actually worth a (*)(*)(*)(*) already paired off in their early 20s.
     
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    Well, you have to admit, Yulia Tymoshenko is kind of hot.
     
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    It's not about sex, if it were these men would be looking for prostitutes. It can be hard these days to find a really hot young woman who would rather be a wife and have lots of children instead of having you buy her drugs and party with them until they're old. Many have been duped into thinking that their career is more important than having a family instead of having a career to help support a family. Feminism has ruined a lot of western women.
     
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    Feminism has ruined a lot of men as well.
     
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    Maybe they're just rich sex tourists, I don't know. All I know is that you can't buy "love" with money. If a woman wouldn't be interested in you unless she has to choose between being with you, and dying in a civil war, then that doesn't say a lot about you.

    Why should anyone "want to have a lot of children"? I sure don't - most I could ever see myself having is 2 - if that's your thing then more power to you, but I don't understand how that makes a woman "desirable". Sorry that you have such a negative view of women, but believe it or not women are just human beings, like me or you. Some women are entirely superficial and just want money, some women aspire to more in life (just like some guys only aspiration is to get high and bang any chick with a pulse and tits, while other guys aspire to accomplish things in life). How "hot" they are is really an irrelevant point. I've met women who are smokin' hot who are very headstrong and genuine and not just interested in "money" or drugs" - conversely I've met women who're overweight or not very hot at all, who sleep with any guy who'll buy her meth.

    In fact my personal experience is that the women who are the quote and quote "sluttiest" are usually the ones who are overweight or not very attractive - basically a lot of women's self-esteem comes from their appearance (since their appearance is the primary source of male sexual attraction) - so women who know they aren't very physically attractive feel like they 'need' to have sex a lot to validate their desirability. Women who look really good 'know' they're attractive since they get hit on buy guys a lot, so they don't feel as much of a drive to sleep with a guy just to 'validate' that they're attractive.
     
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    You're focusing too much on the Ukraine aspect, the company apparently runs these things all over the world and didn't stop because of the Ukraine conflict but as a general phenomenon it has nothing to do with the civil war there.
     

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