american shoots dead his 6 grandchildren.

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  1. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

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    More jobs would create less inequality. For you to put "less inequality" separately, you're referring to confiscating income/wealth from successful people and redistributing it to people who didn't earn said income/wealth, just as a reward for voting Democrat.
     
  2. J0NAH

    J0NAH Banned

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    yes, all these polish immigrants are taking all the new homes!

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    how can a question be incorrect?

    lol
     
  3. Talon

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    Talk about weak arguments...:roll:
     
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    J0NAH Banned

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    whats my agenda?
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    don't you have some more underage repeated rapes of 1400 girls you need to ignore and cover up?

    before you start questioning crimes in another country you should address and fix the problems in your own
     
  6. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you have NO idea what you're talking about!!!!!! :roflol:

    Switzerland has a lower murder rate than Greenland, Russia, Lithuania, Moldova, Belarus, Estonia, Albania, Latvia, Georgia, Ukraine, Kosovo, Malta, Montenegro, Norway, Cyprus, Bulgaria, Armenia, Romania, Greece, Finland, Belgium, Slovakia, etc etc etc...

    Israel has a lower murder rate than most of these nations as well, even though they are heavily armed.

     
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    J0NAH Banned

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    its the rise of the nerds itell you ;)
     
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    Did you or did you not ask if America is ever going to criminalize gun ownership? Your agenda seems to be of one in favor of using tragedies to prove a point that something is "bad".
     
  9. Professor Peabody

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    Yes, we're aware of your draconian laws. Part of why some of our ancestors gave your country the finger and left.
     
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    iadmit, europe has a major problem with pedo's and child molesterers, its that big an issue it would indeed derail this thread as ifeel more strongly about that than this.
     
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    Then try this reasoning:

    Here is America, we believe in freedom of choice and personal responsibility....or at least we did at one time. We also believe in "innocent until proven guilty". I am a gun owner. I have not broken any laws with my guns, nor have I used them in an irresponsible way. Why should I be punished because others use guns irresponsibly? Isn't that assuming I am guilty without me even breaking a law?
     
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    J0NAH Banned

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    just a question, im neither here nor there. ican see why you all need guns as america is a place full of violence. im not trying to take away your guns.
     
  14. Wake_Up

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    So that begs the question...what is the purpose of your OP?
     
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    actually, most of the USA is very peaceful and nice.

    its the dirty, filthy (cough) urban areas that have most of the violence.
     
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    J0NAH Banned

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    Good question.

    why did he shoot them instead of pushing them out of a window columbo?
     
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    Amazing that our OP hasn't commented on the fact that it was illegal for this man to own a gun. He was a convicted felon, and couldn't legally buy guns.
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_of_gun_laws_by_nation#Israel

    Age restrictions:

    • 20 for women who completed military service or civil service equivalent
    • 21 for men who completed military service or civil service equivalent
    • 27 for those who did not complete military service or civil service equivalent
    • 45 for residents of East Jerusalem.

    Haha, I found that funny. And disturbing.
     
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    While it may "seem like" this happens every week, that is not the reality. Rather, with a population of 330 Million+ spread out over almost 4 million square miles, it happens about 4 times a year. When you put that in perspective, you see how rare it actually is.
     
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    Posting a meaningless question for purposes of pro-gun/America bashing.
     
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    You do realize I was referring to your argument?

    Aren't Brits allowed to own hunting rifles? If so, why aren't you allowed to own shotguns? They were originally designed for hunting fowl.
     
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    I never said I needed a gun. I just said this tragedy doesn't fit. People don't go around killing their grandchildren on a regular basis. When someone does it's because they're not right in the head. If it wasn't a gun he could have drowned them. Or poison. Or stabbed. You're just using the particular situation because a gun was used and instead of showing proper respect for the lives that were lost you would rather use this as an opportunity to bash people. That says more about your character then anything else.
     
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    NO! Because if they did it wouldn't be the USA any more.
     
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    Switzerland has the fourth highest gun ownership rate in the world.

    Finland has the fifth.

    and yet, Switzerland is #162 in murder rate and Finland is #125.



    ....soo much for the failed concept that higher percentage of gun ownership means more murders.
     
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    because you may in future use them irresponsibly??
     

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