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  1. Lee S

    Lee S Moderator Staff Member Past Donor

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    That is uncalled for. That is truly obnoxious and undignified. If you do not like getting bested in argument by Margot, then step up your game and stop degrading yourself by resorting to vile slurs. You owe Margot an apology, and if you are any kind of man at all, you will apologize to her.
     
    Lee S, Oct 25, 2013
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  2. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    it will never happened , progress is unstoppable .regardless what your agenda (oil, money , Zionism) is , i dont care

    PS
    read "her" comments
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=283560&p=1062150109#post1062150109
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=233273&p=1060880799#post1060880799
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=211092&p=4556307#post4556307
     
    litwin, Oct 25, 2013
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  3. Lee S

    Lee S Moderator Staff Member Past Donor

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    So let me see if I get this straight, if I may? You say vile and despicable things to a woman, I call you on it, therefore I have an agenda? Perhaps I do have an agenda. My agenda is to find the truth. As far as I know, the only two people in this conversation who have ever been to Saudi Arabia are Margot and Myself, so perhaps you may want to entertain the possibility that we may differ from you in that we actually know what we are talking about. Can you even see that as being a remote possibility?

    And as far as Margot's comments, I have already read most of them. I guarantee you that Margot and myself disagree with each other five or six times as often as we agree with each other. That does not mean I cannot respect her as a person and as a human being, and that doesn't mean I do not enjoy arguing with her. She is very intelligent and sparring with her is excellent mental exersize. One thing I can tell you, Margot has never resorted to childish name calling no matter how hard we argue. Can you say the same thing about youself when you argue with others?

    One more thing, Margot has the courage to argue what she believes, even though she has to know it will bring abuse upon herself. She is just a brave person. Please look at the way she carries on with dignity even though persons like yourself heap scorn and abuse on her. That is what bravery looks like.
     
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    So, there is no any source which disproves / openly tells that the information from Wiki and other media is a lie? Why am I not surprised?
     
    SAUER, Oct 26, 2013
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  5. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

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    I gave you the link to the accurate story. You are free to believe whatever you choose.. Now do you know why the Saudis don't bother????
     
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    Hahaha Fair enough. Well, I still prefer the accurate story which gave Wiki and many other media sources.

    Yeah, ‘cause the regime which practices such things >
    Saudi woman beheaded for 'witchcraft and sorcery' http://edition.cnn.com/2011/12/13/world/meast/saudi-arabia-beheading/
    really doesn’t care that Saudi Arabia's "religious police" stopped schoolgirls from leaving the burning building and hindered rescue workers because the girls were not wearing correct Islamic dress. It’s just local way of life. What’s wrong there? Another ordinary episode.
    “I believe it is extremely foolish to try to superimpose the belief values of the West onto the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. These are two cultures do not even start off from the same place and then they go in opposite directions.” ©
    Right?
    :)
     
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    Western media takes ONE source and distributes it among themselves..

    Sorcery is considered swindling.. and prevents people from getting proper medical care.

    There are fewer than 3400 religious police in the whole kingdom.. Many, people have NEVER seen one.

    I was very surprised that the Saudi Press usually goes to extreme links not to misquote...
     
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    Well it's another thing. Those Saudis are f-ng criminal humanist huh? They sould break on the wheel any whitch next time?

    Sure all western media sources took and distributed lie and only your link gave the true.:smile:
     
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    Swindling is a serious crime in Islam.. Its clear to me that you would reject opinions of the thousands of Americans who have lived and worked in KSA over the past 60 years.

    You favor your own ignorance and opinions.
     
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    yeah and in my view Saudis are f-ng irresolute humanists. I told you that they should break on the wheel any witch next time :smile:

    And who are you to say in the name of all Americans who have lived and worked in KSA?:smile:
     
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    Because we are in constant contact for the past 60 years and have reunions all over the US.. Americans with few exceptions LOVE living in Arabia.

    I don't know anything about China... so I might ask questions of you...but I wouldn't dispute with you if you had lived in China for 20 years.
     
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    I’m afraid that you confuse “warm” and “soft” :) I know some Russians who like to live and work in ME, Africa etc because they have good salaries and some other benefits there. ;) You might not believe it but many of them don’t like the good old local way of life and they have an opinion that only underdeveloped scum can practice such things in the 21th century > http://edition.cnn.com/2011/12/13/wo...bia-beheading/
    Or you want to say that all Americans favor that Saudi woman beheaded for 'witchcraft and sorcery' because –
    :) :)
     
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  13. litwin

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    truth? from which perspective. a sunni upper-class man or in your case neocolonial perspective ? use your empathy think for 1 second you are a saudi women , feels good when somebody else decides for you? whats about shiias would you like to be one of them for 1 year? i dont think so, so brave Margot defends an apartheid, fascist regime(one of 2 the most totalitarian regimes on the planet) and i have no respect for the fascists and the collaborationists. am i wrong?

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    Losing your life by hanging, lethal injection, the gas chamber or the electric chair is still losing your life for a capital offense.

    Swindling ... like pedophilia, rape and murder are capital offenses in KSA. If you can't cope .. don't go there.

    I think you know very little about the world outside the US.. and shoot off your mouth without doing any research.. That's not unusual.
     
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  15. litwin

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    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=252765&p=1061349979#post1061349979

    but you know, Saudis can be funny as well

     
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    litwin Well-Known Member

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    great whats about those cases?
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=329241&page=4&p=1063237453#post1063237453

    - - - Updated - - -

    i do, do you`?
     
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    p.s. Margot imagine that you practiced - ‘Sorcery which considered swindling.. and prevents people from getting proper medical care’ in KSA and local law enforcement got you. You would have preferred that Saudis punished you according to their laws or any other more soft punishment? :)
     
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    The Swindler was taking huge amounts of money for miracle cures..

    See where ignorance takes you?
     
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    C'mon Margot give me the clear answer >

    p.s. Margot imagine that you practiced - ‘Sorcery which considered swindling.. and prevents people from getting proper medical care’ in KSA and local law enforcement got you. You would have preferred that Saudis punished you according to their laws or any other more soft punishment?
    :)
     
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    You have some sort of problem.. Why don't you do your homework? Or, are you a clone of Litwin?
     
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    she will play usual card - Iranian propaganda + ksa has a young population + BBC can not Arabic

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    bunch of bin ladens ...

    ps and here is a joke "Related: 'Witch killings' bring back death penalty in Papua New Guinea" fu%king bronze age
     
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    And you avoid posting a link.. again. LOLOL

    Their clothing is most appropriate for the climate.. if that's what's bothering you. They always appear clean, neat and cool.

    As for Sauer's accusations.. If you aren't a swindler, rapist, pedophile or murderer why would you demand "soft penalties"????
     
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