An Honest Question on the Word of God

This is an honest question from an agnostic to anyone who is a relatively strict adherent of an organized religion. I am uninterested in debate, the opinions of atheists,agnostics, or anyone who does not hold the opinion in question. This is merely a question, not an attack.

Why do you believe that the Torah/Bible/Koran/Other Holy Book is the exclusive word of god?

Why do you believe that this specific book, and not any of the other ones, contain the commandments of god unto man (I understand that the major monotheistic religions overlap, but why do you reject all portions of the other works/religions which do not align with your own?)

Thank you for your time.

 

Very good question, and a very difficult one to answer. I will try to, as I am a Christian.

Thank you ahead of time for your sincerety.

The Torah or Pentateuch actually consists of the first 5 Books of the HOLY BIBLE: Genesis, Exodus, Levitucus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.

We believe the BIBLE to be absolute TRUTH, the inspired, inerrorent, infallible, flawless WORD of GOD, written by men, yet, men wrote under inspiration of GOD. GOD gave and told the WORDS to man, what to write.

We do NOT accept the talmud or koran or other supposed or so called holy books because we do not believe they have the inspiration of GOD behind it, ONLY man's logic, and reason, which are fallible, flawed, and in error. Man's thoughts are NOT divine. GOD's thoughts are Divine. HE inspired Man to write.

Why the BIBLE only?!

Several reasons.

Historical literature

Archeological discoveries

Fulfilment of Biblical Prophecy

Scripture in the BIBLE interprets Scripture. Some say there are contradictions. There are NO contradictions, though. NONE whatsoever.

The HOLY BIBLE is the only BOOK in the world with the track record of prophecy and fulfillment of those prophecies.

It really is a miracle BOOK.

The BIBLE says as one of "The Ten Commandments," "You shall have NO other gods before ME."

Jesus said, "I AM the Way, the Truth, and the Life. NO man comes to the Father, but by ME."

If we accepted other supposed or so called holy books besides the BIBLE, we would be putting other gods(non-Christian gods beside the ONE and ONLY TRUE GOD). That would be idolatry.

The same way with the quote from the Blessed LORD and SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST. If we accepted other supposed or so called holy books, we would be trying to gain entrance into Heaven through another way and another god(non-Christian god).

As far as different versions go: MOST of the BIBLES have been translated from the original Hebrew and Greek manuscripts, into versions of the BIBLE; King James Version, New King James Version, New American Standard Bible, New International Version, Living Translation, New Living Translation, and many other different versions, to help people better understand the BIBLE and the meaning of it.

I do NOT agree with some versions of the BIBLE because they have watered the meaning of it down so much that it has lost its substance and meaning.

I have been told by a Hebrew and Greek scholar that the New King James Version and New American Standard Bible are the most literal to the original Hebrew and Greek manuscripts.

Lastly, should we accept any other so called or supposed holy book, that would mean there would be something wrong with the BIBLE. That would be saying that the BIBLE is not absolute Truth. That would be saying that the BIBLE had errors in it.

The BIBLE most certainly does NOT have any errors in it, NONE whatsoever.

Some people say the BIBLE contains the WORD of GOD. The BIBLE does NOT merely contain the WORD of GOD. The BIBLE IS the WORD of GOD.

I hope this helps and has answered your question.

 

Neodoxy wrote: Why do you believe that the Torah/Bible/Koran/Other Holy Book is the exclusive word of god?

Granny says, "Cause the Bible says so...

... all dem others is just cheap imitations.

 

Thanks for the good laugh, I needed that.

Chesty Puller, the greatest Marine of all time; once had 4 Marines stand 50 feet apart. He told the first Marine a sentence and that was passed on to next in line via a cord. And then to next...till the sentence got to the 4 Marine. it took 46 tried for one sentence to pass between the 4 Marines word for word.

You seriously want us to believe that even if this 'god' existed, that his supposed word was written down word word in a series of books, when it takes 4 Marines 46 tries to get one sentence correctly?

Do the religious folk even have logic anymore?

 

It's Divine. It's Miraculous. It's Supernatural. I don't expect you to understand. When GOD puts something on a persons heart and mind, whether if it is something to do or not do, or something to say or not say...when GOD speaks, it is impossible to forget.

This being the case, man writing the Books that we call the BIBLE were under direct inspiration of GOD.

As I said earlier in the above post, the New King James Version and New American Standard Bible are the most literal to the original Hebrew and Greek Manuscripts.

As far as FAITH, Christianity is NOT blind faith. Christianity is experiential FAITH.

All other religions are man's attempts to reach up to god, and try to work for or earn eternal life.

Christianity is the ONLY FAITH where GOD has reached down to man, and eternal life has been freely given to us by GOD. Eternal life is a gift. You cannot earn it or work for it. That is the love, mercy, grace, love, forgiveness and power of the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY. If we repent, and believe on the LORD and SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST, we are promised eternal life, Salvation, Justification, and Sanctification.

Christianity is a relational and experiential FAITH. It's about having a personal relationship with the LORD and SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST.

By the way, you sound like you may be or may have served in the U.S. Marine Corps. If you did, Happy Birthday, and Happy Veterans Day.

Thank you for your Service.

Semper Fidelis, Devil Dogs!!!

Hoorah!!!

 

And the 4 Marines where under the inspiration of Chesty Puller, the greatest Marine of all time. Yet it took them 46 tries for one sentence to get it right.

You cannot sit here and claim that man is fallible, then claim man wrote the bible with the "inspiration of 'god'" and claim the bible is 100% accurate.

Evolution gave us the ability of logic & reasoning. Use it.

 

TO Watchman:

WHY do you WRITE posts containing such GRATUITOUS capitalization of RANDOM words? DO you think THAT it some somehow enhances YOUR point? BECAUSE it's just annoying AND makes YOU look silly, thus DENEGRATING everything you SAY. THAT and THE fact that you just present AS fact many assertions that YOU don't BACK up with anything OTHER than OPINION. In your CAPITALIZATION fest, you PROVIDE no source CITATIONS, no verifiable FACTS. Hardly the WAY to win CONVERTS.

To rstones199: Well, to be fair, they were marines.

 

Oh the irony.

I suppose if you interpret the meaning of the word 'before' temporally, and not ordinally, then it's not a contradiction.

 

Ref #1: Dating the Oldest New Testament Manuscripts

Ref #2: A Brief History of the King James Bible

 

Of course I can.

GOD does and is more than capable of the impossible. It's Supernatural. It's Miraculous. That's why HE IS GOD. I don't expect you and those like you to understand.

Fallible man talking to fallible man, of course there'd be confusion and misquoting, misunderstanding, etc.

If Chesty Puller were GOD(which he was and is NOT), talking to those Marines, they would have succeeded in the first attempt.

Is GOD able to speak to man, and man remember and write down exactly what GOD has said? Of course HE IS. GOD wouldn't be GOD if HE couldn't.

Look at it this way. Some early writers who were students had a teacher, professor, or philosopher in the same room. Imagine that teacher walking around the writer, telling him the exact words to pen and write. The writer writes as the teacher, professor, or philosopher speaks.

Understand now?

That's very reasonable and logical.

I don't expect you and those like you to understand, because you really refuse to understand. You don't want to really understand. You'd rather poke fun, and make yourself look like babbling idiots, bashing the TRUTH.

We're finished.

 

To everyone except Watchman,
Thank you all for turning a polite, straightforward and explicitly non-argumentative thread into a debate over your personal beefs with a viewpoint I was attempting to find out more about. There's a million and one places to argue over religion, I would appreciate it if you did not choose a place where the OP asked that NOT to happen.
Watchman,
Thank you for your explanation, that was informative.

 

Then you should try private messsages, as this is a public forum.

 

Thank you, Sir, for your sincere question.

I hope I answered, replied, and responded in a way that you were hoping for and expecting.

Thank you for NOT being combative and argumentive.

We need more people like you on this forum, Sir.

I've made my mistakes on this forum, sometimes attacking the OP or the individual rather than their views, said statements, and beliefs.

I try to be careful.

In a heated discussion or debate, it can get and become easy to insult, call names, threats, etc.

 

Rules should apply to the OPs wishes.

Just a suggestion for the Moderators.

 

I must say that it is a mark of true faith to believe all that in spite of all evidence to the contrary.

 

You're greatly mistaken.

 

I apologize, but there was just too much irony to resist.

 

That doesn't mean that you have to have a pointless argument over religion when one of the expressed desires of the thread was for that not to happen.

 

Its not pointless. There are others who read these forums, just not yourself, myself or watchman.

 

Watchman said something that is very true--The Bible is Super Natural. It is pure truth--and the only source of pure truth--in this world.

Because the Bible is the foundation of truth--- the world makes sense.

I do think its meaningless unless you believe in God in the first place. Even after I did that---I never assumed the Bible was without error and literal until much later after being a Christian. It takes faith, first.

 

And how many people do you think will read the debate and change their minds based upon what you have written? People are very unlikely to change their religious views in the first place, and I daresay anyone frequenting an online forum where athiest sentiment tends to be rather high is either going to agree already, or will not care what you have to say.
Just something to think about.

 

This thread is depressing.

 

What's the main message in the Bible?

 

John 3:16

 

Try Deuteronomy 7:6 (CEV) =
Moses said:
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Israel, you are the chosen people of the Lord your God. There are many nations on this earth, but he chose only Israel to be his very own.

That means everyone else is garbage.