Another mass shooting

https://www.yahoo.com/news/2-children-among-5-killed-010718996.html

ROCK HILL, S.C. (AP) — A suspect was found after an hours-long search for the attacker in a South Carolina shooting Wednesday evening that left five people, including two children and a prominent doctor, dead, authorities said.

As a full supporter of the 2nd Amendment and a gun owner, I have to say this is getting out of hand. These shooting are becoming so common place that I did not even get a news alert from any of the apps on my phone when this one went down.

 

They are no more common than they have ever been.

 

Seems like we had a break from them over the last year, but maybe that is just me.

It does not change the fact that they have become so common they are barely newsworthy any more.

This is a problem

 

Thats just it. They are in the news more on purpose. It helps push the politicians agenda to restrict gun ownership and consolidate power.

 

No more of a problem than road rage on highways, which is more of a mental health/anger management thing than a car thing.

 

But they are not in the news. This shooting is getting basically no coverage. It is a tiny story on CNN.com, I had to dig for it on MSNBC.com and FoxNews.com.

They are common enough nobody really even cares anymore.

 

While I agree that both problems are equivalent mental health/anger management things, it is a silly comparison.

 

not really. Mental health in this country is the key problem. It is the root of both issues. Let's go after the root problem, not the symptoms.

 

Since your a supporter of the 2A, we have to work harder to get as many citizens to carry legal firearms and be trained in the proper use of them. When good guys with guns start taking out bad guys with gun then the bad guys with guns will stop shooting innocents.
Also need to see people who allow mental health patients and violent people easy access to their guns get a automatic prison sentence.
Decreasing violent movies, video games, music and educating youngsters also would help.

 

The ones that get all the news coverage are those that are staged for political purposes.

 

This doesn't count as a "mass shooting", because it involved "conventionally motivated" crimes.

I'm not even making that up. That's how the leftist "categorization" shell game works.

I know, it's utterly ridiculous, but these are the tricks leftists have to pull, and the mind games they have to play on themselves, in order to pretend like it's white people perpetrating all of the most nefarious gun crimes.

@The Ant will be along shortly to explain it all to us.

 

It's a people problem. A societal problem. I could kill far more people on a crowded street anytime I want using a vehicle than any gun ever could. Do we blame the car? No, we blame the psychotic ******* behind the wheel...

 

I do not really agree with this line of thinking. I do not think more guns are the answer. If someone wants to carry then I think they should, and they should seek professional training. But to encourage those that do not wish to does not good. It seems many of these bad guys with guns want to die in a blaze of glory, so not sure they care about being shot back at.

I agree with this. This is a big issue. Also how we deal with the mentally ill is a problem.

Education yes, movies and games and music, no. Places like South Korea have a far higher percent of their youth playing violent video games and they do not have the violence problem we do. Violent video games sell in the 10s of millions, if they were the problem then we would have a lot more people acting out on them. Same goes with the music and movies.

There is something about the American mentality that has never left the days of the wild west, showdown at noon sort of thing. I am not sure why this is or if there is a way to "fix" it.

 

What was the conventionally motivated crime in this case?

 

Latest news is that this latest mass-murderer, Phillip Adams, was a Black, former NFL player. He killed himself and saved everybody the expense of having to support him for the rest of his life. No motivation is yet known for these murders....

Evidently, he used a .45 caliber handgun to kill his victims, so the Left will be frustrated that this incident won't help their effort to forbid and/or confiscate "assault weapons"....

Link: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/f...-and-himself-in-south-carolina-ap-01617890056

 

Aren't you licensed by the State to drive the car? I suspect that if murder by vehicle became prevalent, the State would regulate accordingly, no? Ultimately, of course, it IS a people problem...a mental illness problem leading to basically the misuse of technology.

 

Its not "getting out of hand". This has been the status quo for decades. I am 2A supporter and gun owner too.

There was no break, but there were so many other things going on last year that they didn't get the same attention. As a matter of fact, homicides sky-rocketed last year. They doubled is places like Ft Worth, Texas.

Yes, we have totally dropped the ball on mental health. I knew a guy in our dart league who later killed his entered family (mother, father and brother). Shot them all in the head. He also intended to kill a good friend of mine, but was not able to locate him before his arrest. He had mental issues.

It's ridiculous to assume a "good guys with guns" would be present in situations like this where mass murder takes place in private residences.

 

Thanks for the link. I have seen a few people trying to tie this to brain damage from football, but it seems a tad early for that as well. He did not play all that long but that is not to say he did not have some issues.

I hope they are able to discover the motive behind the shootings

 

These days, you never know. Drugs? "Religion"? Some kind of 'personal anger'? This country has turned into a total, out-of-control mess, and these scheming liberal Democrats trying to grab everyone's weapons of self-defense are just going to make everything even worse....

 

do you understand that you must attend a class to get a CCW? Is that sufficient for you or do you think "more professional training" should be required? If more, then we must also mandate professional training for religion and free speech; right?

Maybe we should educate all politicians on the 10th amendment as they urinate on it all of the time

 

Where the **** did I say anything should be mandated? What the **** dude.

I said I think people should get professional training, not that it should be forced on them. And no, I do not think the CCW card training is really all that useful, but then again I spent 20 year in the Marine, so I got a **** ton of professional training in firearms of all sorts.

This post is a snapshot of what is wrong with this country, you either agree with someone 100% or you are the enemy.

 

nope

Rights are inalienable. To even consider opening the door a crack for elected and un-elected officials to dilute inalienable rights is very dangerous

 

Well sir, if you spent 20 years in the Marines you are certainly not the enemy.

 

and one more thing, as a former Marine, take a look at the 10th Amendment and tell us if you think the folks in DC on both sides of the aisle as well as the taxpayer funded employees even understand the 10th

you are correct that there are 2 sides and it's not Democrat voters and GOP voters, it's DC vs the rest of us

 

Indeed. It didn't take long for people to slap labels on everyone so they can divide everyone in "us" and "them". It never fails.