There seems to be a need to clarify the record here. Although most resident truthers here prefer the line that no plane hit the Pentagon, and therefore Mineta's testimony is irrelevant, some here (Quantum) prefer the link that it was allowed to hit, and therefore Mineta's testimony to them is like 13 year old getting to see his first set of tits. And if we are to continue that metaphor, if Mineta's testimony were a pair of tits one would be perfect and the other would hang down to the knees; they just don't line up. Mineta's testimony was never included in the 9/11 Commission Report because it could not be corroborated with anything else. Although parts of his memory are correct, his time line is way off the mark. In effect, Mineta claims Cheney and him were in the PEOC at 0920 that morning, getting read outs from a military aide and Monte Belger (FAA) of an incoming target. Mineta assumes a shoot down order has already been given and as the numbers tick down an aide asks if the "orders" still stand. To which the answer is yes. Because AA77 ended up in the Pentagon at 0937, truthers then assert this was in fact a stand down order for some imaginary fighters which were no where near WDC anyway. Needless to say, there is no evidence for a stand down order at all. This being the introduction I will now present 2 further posts as to why Mineta has his time line off. I will also post details on why Mineta was in fact talking about UA93, not AA77. Finally, I will discuss the military response on 9/11, and show that no fighters were even in the area to carry out a shoot down, or a stand down. - - - Updated - - - First main points to bring up is Mineta's time line. The target for AA77 was not detected by anyone until 0924 by Dulles TRACON. This information was passed to the FAA, and then the Secrete Service a couple of minutes later, when it target was only 30 miles out as recorded in both the ATC audio tapes that day, as well as the secrete service logs. "0930 - FAA PO advices one of [2 missing aircraft] approach Washington DC - Not communicating with Tower" "0931 - FAA PO advices aircraft is 30 miles out from White House" It is impossible for Cheney, Mineta, and Belger to be talking about an aircraft 50 miles out when at the very earliest they could have known about it was 30 miles. Monte Belger, the FAA deputy administrator, who was providing information to Mineta that morning about the target inbound to DC, said he never even talked to Mineta until after the Pentagon was hit, around 0945. More of this next post. Mineta himself states he arrived at the White House after it had begun to evacuate. The White House did not evacuate until after the Pentagon was hit. Richard Clarke gave the order to evacuate the White House, and in the documentary "The Secrete History of 9/11", which features Richard Clarke heavily, this timeline is very well stated. This evacuation time is also recorded by CNN. Therefore it is impossible for Mineta to be in the PEOC for the approach of AA77. According to the Secrete Service log above Cheney did not start being evacuated to the PEOC until 0937. Other evidence suggests he did not arrive until 0945. According to Cheney's own statements, while in the tunnel heading for the PEOC, he stopped to watch the news on a tv, and took a call from President Bush on Air Force One. This time line can be easily confirmed, as Bush did not get Air Force One until between 0942 and 0945. This conversation took place in the tunnel before Cheney even got to the PEOC. Again, this means that neither Cheney, nor Mineta were in the PEOC for AA77's approach. Finally, Cheney does not have the authority to issue a shoot down order, or a stand down order. Only the President or Secretary of Defence has that authority. Bush did not relay an order to shoot down aircraft until closer to 10am. That order was then conveyed to the fighters out of Andrews AFB, who were under the control of the Secrete Service, not to NEADS.