Another Trump Hoax

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by G5000, Feb 21, 2018.

  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    We had a record-breaking bull market while Obama was in office. Meanwhile, you stop paying attention to the stock market when it takes a dive when your guy is in office. The selective attention is hilarious. You also failed to address the fact that your citation of labor statistics is fake. The upward trend started before Trump was elected. No, I don't think Obama gets the credit for that. But crediting Trump for it is far more vapid.
     
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    No one has ever claimed that everyone should carry a gun at our schools.

    What we have claimed is that there should be at least armed guards or and at most willing and properly trained faculty being allowed to carry.

    Why can't you understand that?
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    No, you didn't. For example, you still whistle and look the other way at the stock market dive. "Never looking back"? Have you been looking at all?
     
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    I didnt say welfare was enough to end the deficit

    But it would sure help

    As for tax cuts I think revenue to the government will increase
     
  5. G5000

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    The argument has been made many times that the more people who carry guns, the safer our society is.

    It has also been argued that the "way to stop a bad guy with a gun is with a good guy with a gun".

    So the implication is quite clear. The way to make Trump as safe as humanly possible is to allow everyone to carry a gun to his rallies.

    When Trump lives by his own code, then I will believe he is sincere.
     
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    Libs are really getting hysterical and losing their collective mind
     
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    I think your propagandists have led you to believe that welfare spending is much greater than it actually is.

    Meanwhile, the largest wealth redistribution scheme in the history of the Universe is conveniently and deliberately ignored. You are kept eternally ignorant about it. It is going on right under your nose, and you are oblivious to it. Your propagandists have you focused on the poor, as if they are to blame for everything. They and Mexicans. :lol:

    Even worse, you participate in this wealth redistribution scheme, blindly bleeving you are coming out ahead and aren't taking from anyone when neither is true. Which is why pseudocons defend their own robbery with a vengeance.
     
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  8. G5000

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    The pseuedocons are clearly nervous about guns at Trump rallies.

    Interesting.

    I thought more guns makes us all safer! We need as many people running around with guns as possible!

    You mean to say that's all horseshit?

    Hmmmm...
     
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    Democrats think we don't need guns, while they have armed guards protecting them.

    Pseudocons think we need as many people running around with guns as possible, while Trump rallies should be gun-free zones.

    Interesting! Both sides only trust cops with guns!

    No wonder gun control debates go in circles. Everyone's a hypocrite!
     
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    There are only so many hours in a day

    And I have spend most of them fielding goofball comments from liberals
     
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    Ok I see your logic

    Everyone who disagrees with you is being lied to by, by who?

    Did it ever occur to you that yoy could be wrong?
     
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    You are being lied to by your propagandists. You parrot what you are told to parrot, and bleev what you are told to bleev. You never say anything new that I haven't already heard parroted a thousand times by equally brainwashed parrots.

    I actually have facts and figures to back up what I said. I can certainly provide them. Happily. But I must warn you: my posts will be much longer than a tweet.
     
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    I think it would be best if I started a separate topic about tax expenditures. It is sure to be lively.

    Tax expenditures don't count as a Trump hoax. They are a pseudocon hoax.

    Stay tuned.
     
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    This is not in dispute, Dow Jones gained 10,000 points during the 8 years of Obama administration.... It gained 8,000 points in the first year of Trump's though. Do you see the difference?

    Corrections are healthy, necessary and unavoidable. Personally I think this correction just started and will take a few more months to work itself out. But I've been wrong before. That being said, attacking Trump for a minor and so far extremely short market correction is frankly pathetic.
     
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    The Dow Jones isn't all there is to the stock market and the stock market is a poor, poor proxy for the economy as whole. Also, try researching how to draw a trend line. It is necessary for making claims like you do. What, exactly, is remarkable about the stock market under Trump compared the the pre-existing trend? I'd love to hear an answer on that.


    The "correction" wiped out almost all the gains that had appeared under Trump. Try again.

    Minor? By that measure, the stock market growth under Trump has been minor.
     
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    The economy is chugging along, and has been for eight years.

    However, it would be doing much better if we did not have so much debt. MUCH better.

    Too bad Trump and the pseuedocons are such uber-Keynesians and are okay with adding another ten trillion to our debt.

    Sad.
     
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    I already explained, 10,000 points during Obama's 8 years, 8,000 in the first year of Trump's administration, going through the roof the moment Trump was elected. That was the market's way to say f*ck the Democrats, we expect great pro-growth things from Trump. :D and he has not disappointed.

    By definition stock market growth is a trend and a correction is a temporary, short-lived and unimportant pull-back. The market under Trump has gained 8,000 in one year, it's now within 1 or 2% of its all time high and you can bleat about the correction till you're blue in the face, it merely betrays your utter ignorance about markets.
     
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    Um...why are you lying?

    The Dow did not go up 8,000 points during the first year of Trump's administration. Not even close.

    Did you get that hoax from Trump? :lol:
     
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    You are lecturing people about ignorance of the markets when you still don't grasp the concept of a trend line? I'm straight-A MBA student. Dude, sorry, but this is floundering.
     
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    Here is the close of the Dow on January 20, 2017:

    19,827.25.

    You're welcome.
     
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    Man, the hoaxes just keep on coming!

    This topic has been a hoot! :lol:
     
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    When Obama took office, our country was bleeding half a million jobs a month, and the Dow was crashing all the way down to the 6600s.

    When Trump took office, the Dow had climbed 300 percent (over 13,000 points), and the economy was growing while unemployment had been steadily declining for seven years.

    There simply is no comparison. It is apples and oranges.
     
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    You're right of course, 26,600 - 18,000 = 8,600, not 8,000 as I mistakenly claimed.
    Get a refund from you MBA program. The trend was flat during the last 2 years of Obama's administration, the Dow reached 18,000 at the end of 2014 and was at about the same level of 18,000 on the election day in late 2016. Then on the election day it went through the roof and never looked back.
    [​IMG]
     
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    I see what you did there. :lol:
     
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    First clue someone is misrepresenting with statistics: They put on blinders. Why only the last two years? And why are you still refusing to try drawing a trend line? Excel should do it for you if you are having trouble with it. And why do you keep ignoring that big dip? It wipes out the best of the upward trend you are promoting. That is, at least if you learn to draw a trend line.
     

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