Apparently Britain has an epidemic of Muslim men raping white girls?

Labour MP wrote controversial article in the Sun saying ‘Britain has a problem with British Pakistani men raping white girls’. Most Pakistani Brits are Muslim. https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ties-minister-sun-article-pakistani-men#img-1

Question: If this is true, then what CAUSES Muslim men to specifically rape white girls?

Me, I think it's the general tone of hatred in the Islamic texts towards non-believers - and in Britain the vast majority of white girls are non-Muslims, of course. The Muslim male just sees the non-Muslim female as worthless, so getting his lustful desires satisfied at her expense is something he's willing to do. After all, she's going to get brutally tortured for 99.99999999999%+ of her entire existence (counting the "after-life") anyway - and that's fair and just, according to his god, Allah.

Your opinion as to what CAUSES this epidemic we are witnessing? (Again, I say the problem is religion/faith.)

 

The Chruch had a problem when Preachers raping and molesting too... sadly it happens

do you really want to blame all Muslims and Christian men for these peoples actions?

we can all condemn people that do these things, but to say it's all of a group is ridiculous

religion doesn't make people good, religious people do much bad too

 

Can you stay on topic

 

can you? I am on topic

so why do you think people that claim to believe in a God rape people? Molest people? kill people?

it always seems to be those stuck in biblical times like the radical Muslims doing these things that are the worst offenders imo

 

I think the mistake many are making is thinking you can bring people into a civilized socity that were raised in a biblical times society

there has to be a buffers, to teach them the ways of civil secular society first, not just throw them into the mix, or the results are going to be bad

 

Who the hell says I'm blaming ALL people of a religion for the rapists/pedophiles, I"m not.

But the ridiculous rules that priests can't have sexual relations (religion makes people make terrible decisions), and the hatred towards non-Muslims (and Mohammad taking sex-slaves from captured non-believers) certainly does contribute to pain in the world, as we're seeing in the headlines.

 

We both agree that Christianity is not better than Islam.

 

There is an interesting school of thought that Bishops and leaders in the Roman Catholic church of the second, third and fourth century feared...... the way that church was done in the first century.

In the first century.... and into the second century.... the Messianic Jewish communities flourished and grew fast within homes....... and the women.... do tend to rule in their homes..........

They thought up a way to break church out of the control of wives and women... and came up with the idea of a "celibate" priesthood... with a harem of nuns...........
and put church into large buildings that these celibate priests control..........

Even the Apostle Paul struggled with some of the progressive statements Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus made about women........

Judaism.... Christianity... and Islam...... tend to be patriarchal...... and this gets us into certain types of problems........ the witch trials of the dark ages is similar to the raping of white women by Muslims in Britain at this time........

Most of the people accused of witchcraft and tortured were women.........


http://www.politicalforum.com/index...it-into-heaven-then…….385557/#post-1064508886

If more women than men make it into heaven then…….?

http://www.heaven.net.nz/visions/the-hordes-of-hell-are-marching.htm

 

I think it is because these so called Muslims, or those who have submitted themselves to Allah, do not know their Noble Qur'an.

3:45-58 Qur'an
https://quran.com/3/45-58


[And mention] when the angels said, "O Mary, indeed Allah gives you good tidings of a word from Him, whose name will be the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary - distinguished in this world and the Hereafter and among those brought near [to Allah ].

He will speak to the people in the cradle and in maturity and will be of the righteous."

She said, "My Lord, how will I have a child when no man has touched me?" [The angel] said, "Such is Allah ; He creates what He wills. When He decrees a matter, He only says to it, 'Be,' and it is.

And He will teach him writing and wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel

And [make him] a messenger to the Children of Israel, [who will say], 'Indeed I have come to you with a sign from your Lord in that I design for you from clay [that which is] like the form of a bird, then I breathe into it and it becomes a bird by permission of Allah . And I cure the blind and the leper, and I give life to the dead - by permission of Allah . And I inform you of what you eat and what you store in your houses. Indeed in that is a sign for you, if you are believers.

And [I have come] confirming what was before me of the Torah and to make lawful for you some of what was forbidden to you. And I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, so fear Allah and obey me.

Indeed, Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is the straight path."

But when Jesus felt [persistence in] disbelief from them, he said, "Who are my supporters for [the cause of] Allah ?" The disciples said," We are supporters for Allah . We have believed in Allah and testify that we are Muslims [submitting to Him].

Our Lord, we have believed in what You revealed and have followed the messenger Jesus, so register us among the witnesses [to truth]."

And the disbelievers planned, but Allah planned. And Allah is the best of planners.

[SIZE=5][B][Mention] when Allah said, "O Jesus, indeed I will take you and raise you to Myself and purify you from those who disbelieve and make those who follow you [in submission to Allah alone] superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return, and I will judge between you concerning that in which you used to differ.[/B][/SIZE]

[SIZE=5][B]And as for those who disbelieved, I will punish them with a severe punishment in this world and the Hereafter, and they will have no helpers."[/B][/SIZE]

[SIZE=5][B]But as for those who believed and did righteous deeds, He will give them in full their rewards, and Allah does not like the wrongdoers.[/B][/SIZE]

[B]This is what We recite to you, [O Muhammad], of [Our] verses and the precise [and wise] message.[/B]

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Hosea 4:6
"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children."


Living to defend a 'truth' which is really a 'lie' can be a powerful deception even to the self. If I truly believe that my 'raping' is correct to Allah, then I will be even the more empowered to do so.

This deceptive living is happening from both sides. The 'Muslims' claiming they are of Allah yet not knowing what The Noble Qur'an actually says

AND

The non Muslims - Christians- believing that Islam is a 'pagan' religion.

Man's personal 'additions' to Islam, such as the image of ishtar or symbolism of ishtar, to their religion, does not help in dispelling the lies and revealing the Truth about Allah.

 

But Mohammad approved of taking sex slaves from captured non-believers, so the SENTIMENT is there, unfortunately.

 

and such statements such as this, that Mohammad approved of taking sex slaves, must be backed by Quranic verses in order for it to 'stand' otherwise it is all hearsay by other accounts.

Smearing the name of God's Messengers is not a good thing to do.

Jesus Himself claimed Himself to be a messenger of Allah.

 

Funny how this same sentiment isn't relayed to white males or Trump voters after Charlottesville.

 

61:6

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And (remember) when 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), said: "O Children of Israel! I am the Messenger of Allah unto you confirming the Taurat [(Torah) which came] before me, and giving glad tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed. But when he (Ahmed i.e. Muhammad SAW) came to them with clear proofs, they said: "This is plain magic."

Remember that Muhammad was born over 500 years after Jesus Christ ascended into Heaven.

 

the base religion of both Christianity and Muslminity, is the Jewish religion and they are both based on that God, so it makes sense that they would still believe what God said before they created their part 2's of the religion

they both had to be careful, change the religion too much or change God too much and you could not get converts from the former religion as easily

the idea of a Son that was better then the Father was a good option.... as believers saw that in real life too

 

religion or and God is not about monetary profits..

It is about the present life and God and Eternity. God is not a corporation in which He gets more $$$ with more converts. HE seeks to give Eternal Goodness to all: not to get a paycheck with each 'believer'.

To believe such an idea that God is in it for His Own personal gain is deceptive and could lead many running away from Him rather than being protected by Him.

 

Valid point. "what your right hand possesses" in the Qur'an refers to slaves and captives.
Yes, all 3 main Abrahamic faiths approve of slavery, and Moses distributed the virgins to his minions, similar to Mohammad....so no, The Bible is not more ethical than the Qur'an, I'm afraid.

 

Funny, I've never heard the words "noble" and "wife beating" in the same sentence.....4:34 (Shakir) of the "Noble" Qur'an teaches Muslims to beat their wives, and that women are also inferior, and that men/women are not equals (one is "in charge" of the other.) http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-wife-beating-koran-4-34.htm

"Noble" is probably not the best word to use in the future, my friend.

 

"Heaven" isn't real. If it was, I'm sure your all-powerful, all-loving invisible friend who lives in the sky would care enough for humanity to provide a court-room level of evidence for it.

 

this thread is nothing but bigoted, dishonest flamebait hate speech.

there is no "epidemic" of Muslims raping white girls in Britain.

 

where did I mention God is in it for the $$$, I said converts, they wanted new converts from the Jewish religion to the new Christian and Muslim Religions

but of course that was also for $$$ and power for those that controlled the religion

 

Are you calling the newspaper a liar?

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ties-minister-sun-article-pakistani-men#img-2

 

I'm quite happy to do so. The Scum, as it's commonly known has a long history of telling lies. It's what they do - print lies on the front page, then maybe print a tiny retraction hidden away on page 20-something if they get called out on it. Look up The Sun in relation to the Hillsborough disaster, for example. They also have a long history of racism, of course. It's not a source that can be relied upon to give any kind of accurate reporting over such an issue - it's a sensationalist rag known for peddling hate and lies. The idiot politician involved in this should have known better, and has rightly resigned over it.

There is certainly no 'epidemic' - there have been some instances of groups of asian men in 'grooming gangs', but it's quite rare, and not unique to asian men or Muslims. What the men in those gangs may have in common in this specific instance may well not be their religion anyway. Apparently they tend to be centred around 'late night workers' - taxi drivers, takeaway food sellers, and so on. It's very common for asians to work in that kind of industry in big UK cities, and it puts them in city centres late at night where the most vulnerable young girls are likely to be around, as well as being in contact with each other.

They might also have connections between each other partly on the basis of being part of the same 'community', of course, and it might be that that community can be relatively 'closed' in the sense of grouping together and being used to solving their problems internally rather than involving the police. That has more to do with the community as a whole not feeling that they are going to get equal and fair treatment from 'the authorities' than anything else. People attacking and blaming their whole community and/or religion over the actions of a few criminals within them are only going to make that issue worse in terms of other community members feeling confident in reporting any suspicions they may have about illegal activities. It's a general problem, but the answer is better engagement, not 'culture blaming'.

Islam, and the ordinary people who follow it, are no more responsible for the actions of such criminals than I am responsible for the idiocy of Trump.

 

Already on Western Europe . . .

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...g-to-blame-entire-community-for-abuse.512494/

 

I'd say MEN have been raping women since they knew they could..that's about 10,000 years of it ....Muslims didn't invent it....

When a woman is raped the pain and horror of it isn't based on religious beliefs or skin color....but bigots will use it to further the hate against any group they don't like.....