Are Basic, Natural Law Rights More Than America Can Understand And Entertain?

I certainly believe in and have done a great deal of study on the natural laws that have allowed millions of species to thrive on earth for millions of years before the human race came along. The rules are quite simple.

Each individual IS totally responsible for themselves.
Once you are past the stage of parental support, you are on your own.
Each individual suffers the consequences or benefits of it's own decisions.
If you don't hunt, you don't eat.
If you don't adapt to the world as it is, you don't survive.

That has worked since time began, and all those thriving species thrived without anything other than what nature gave them, without schools, psychiatry, lawyers, police, doctors or formal education- and did so without poisoning their planet, without using up the natural resources, without trashing everything, without wars to kill off creatures far away that were different from them. Must be something there that we should learn, because we are pretty much the opposite of all those admirable qualities- the only species in the history of the world who will likely be totally responsible for it's own extinction. That is how smart we are. We think we are smart enough to repeal all the rules that have governed the success of life for millions of years, and make up our own.....

 

Life, Liberty, Pursuit of Happiness and Right to own property. Which one's do you feel the President is trying to deny you? Why?

 

The last three are in jeopardy as Trump conciliates Putin.

 

Some folks think my natural rights infringe on their natural rights, and vice versa.

Thus the constitution, voting and representative government.

 

Any one has the right to his opinion.

Any one who picks up a weapon to oppose the government will probably be put down by his neighbors before the police get there.

 

it's the other way around... democracy will eat itself alive if left to it's own device... case in point, california where you have the freedom to vote for anyone you like, as long as they are from that one party...

 

they are referring to that very far right fringe, but also, wrongfully, include all traditional conservatives in that group... both extreme wings(left's & right's) are the same imo, but they refuse to recognize that, doesn't exactly mate up with being 'centrist' now does it

 

so it's mob rule as long as it fits your agenda? interesting

 

I'm sorry Jake but that Russian and Putin crap is just what it is. You must be listening to Adam Shiff-head. Paranoia and fear is what I hear and see from the liberal wing of the party. I guess you know that all this B.S. was created by a false dossier paid for by the DNC and Hillary Clinton. Throw in a few Trump haters from the FBI and NSA to perpetuate the story and feed the media the lie and you have the pile of dog doo we have today.

 

an ongoing learning process, past civilizations died off for a reason and so shall we... perhaps the next ones will get it right...

 

Humans are the first things on earth to desire more than survival. If we're to be no more than other animals, then so what if we go extinct? If on the other hand we can master the universe (in the distant future of course) and bend nature to our will through technolohical innovation and creativity, we could become as our Creator. We can either go extinct as a result of our own disastrously failed attempts at immortality (in the collective sense) or we can go extinct when our sun explodes or an asteroid wipes us out or a plague or ...etc. One is innevitable, the other merely a risk.

 

The last three are in jeopardy as Trump conciliates Putin.

Parranio, crap, and fear is all that the Trumper part of the GOP have left now. You know it is BS to deny the Trump train wreck is almost here.

The alt facts and fake news of the Trumpers breaks down as we watch.

 

The tragedy is that until we learn to master ourselves, to be able to effectively understand who we are and how life works- we do not have a long range future.
Everything is possible for us, yet we are the obstacle that prevents us achieving that, or even just living on a break-even basis where the harm we do does not exceed the good we do.

 

Believing that Buzzfeed news are you? LOL

 

Watching the debris flying off the Trump train wreck is illuminating.

 

So do you recommend waiting until life and livelihood is threatened?

Where is comment upon the function of free speech enabling unity as a right, opposing tyranny and the destruction of unalienable, retained rights?

 

Will that neighbor act the same way to protect the constitution the government is working to usurp?

 

Spiritguide may be recommending mutation instead of adaptation as we know it.

The framers got it right, but the torys were paying off the community surrounding them in gold to prevent the full doctrines of understanding the Five Nations Iroquois shared with them. I'll prove this here, now.

The origin of the term"free speech" comes from a spiritual, philosophical doctrine well used by the Iroquois Six Nations Confederacy, specifically the Seneca.

It was communicated successfully to the framers of Americas founding documents, by the Six Nations, but specifically the Seneca who had to fight a psychological war with infiltrators of the English crown in the ranks of the powerful and influential also demanding a role in creating the framing documents. There was intense competition for inclusion/exclusion of concept in the proposed documents. In that competition the entire doctrine was fragmented and the notion of free speech was separated from the rest of the concepts of the doctrine.

The entire doctrine undoubtably was deemed too long and too philosophical to be included in the Declaration of Independence by the torys working to weaken the new nations founding precepts, so "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" was broken off from the rest of the "Greater Meaning" for inclusion in the Declaration of Independence.

The complete concept of the greater meaning of free speech is as follows:

The "Greater Meaning Of Free Speech" is or was, an actual, practiced philosophical doctrine by the Six Nations. The "meaning" is derived from an understanding that can come from the practice of free speech. From the understanding can come; forgiveness, tolerance, acceptance, respect, trust, friendship and love, protecting life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.​

We only have 30% of that originial, philosophically full doctrine in the Declaration of Independence. If the Torys had not prevented its inclusion, the nation could never have been divided to cause the civil war.

 

But rarely do they attempt to engage in rational discussion to try and prove the assertions nor do they engage in enforcement of the constitution. They pretend to not understand it or not recognize it.

 

Democracy depends on opinion, opinion depends on information, information depends on power. Oops, the king had power and the framers knew it so made a republic.

If Americans end the abridging of the PURPOSE of free speech, democracy will have what it needs. Left and right will cease to matter in any functional way.

 

The neighbor who cherishes the Constitution will put down a revolt by left or right.

 

Well ya, that's because they want to get rid of it but can't.

 

Threatened for what? If one's life or livelyhood is threatened, they care little if they have a right to own a gun or some property. They are mainly worried about living at that point.
If an entire society is worried about life and livelihood, guns they may want, but property isn't a concern. Many so called 'natural' rights, won't mean squat if death is in their thoughts.

 

They only care for what they NEED to survive. The minimization of that specific need is noted as a cognitive distortion of “all or nothing” thinking.

Needs are generally limited, but extremely diverse in emergency, but pretending no one knows what they need, even then, is not realistic.

 

Yes, IMO, natural rights are only those one needs to survive.
Any other rights are given or protected by the gov't. In the USA, the gov't is of the people.