Are Black People Racist

LOL, OK...... No they're not racist yet they spew anti-white racial slurs on TV all the time and the progressive audience thinks it's cute.

Oh and they hate government yet overwhelmingly vote democrat? lol....

Many blacks are straight up racist - I will say 50% are racists...

Oh and if I said I was distrustful of blacks you would call me a racist....... lol.

 

You are a racist. What percentage of Whites do you think are racist?

A lot of people in general have some kind of racist views. I wouldn't say half or most of any group is racist. Most people are decent. You just want to demonize Black people. Weren't you defending The Bell Curve in another thread until a thrashed you on the subject?

 

I'm not racist - I hate progressives, big difference.

Race is an issue in society today because progressives want race to be an issue.

You see, me an my non-progressive friends of all races laugh at race, we mock race because we think this 'racism' crap is just that - crap.

 

I am afraid I can't agree with your assessment. If the majority of blanks aren't racists the Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton would be broke. No one would follow them, and they would be shouted down every time they spoke. But they aren't.

Additionally, many blacks love the government. They love the free handouts.

 

You are an advocate of Scientific Racism which makes you a racist. You defended that garbage book as if it were the gospel truth without providing any feedback to scientific rebuttals and now you want to sit here and claim you have no stake in these race-related discussions? Get real!

 

Of course I defended the truth hence the book... That isn't racism - as a matter of fact we (*)(*)(*)(*)ing clearly figured out together you don't know what the definition of racism is.....

To you anything that doesn't make blacks look like victims or superior to whites is RACISM in your progressive mind.

No, you're the racist NOT me.

 

In the thread I clearly established what racism is and why The Bell Curve is racist in this post. You had no rebuttal. You displayed an inability to address the scientific arguments which means that your only reason for supporting the book was because you WANT to believe it is true. Well having a desire to believe something and proving it is true are not the same thing. Your emotional bias for racist pseudoscience shows what kind of person you are. And falsely accusing me of racism isn't going to help you.

 

Look, I already explained the Bell Curve to you - there is nothing racist about it..... The basis of the Bell Curve is racial divergence in IQ - it's really that simple. Some races have a narrower divergence and others have a wider divergence, blacks just happen to have a wide divergence, so tell me how is that racist?

Racism's definition is the inherent idea that one race is superior to another......... LEARN IT! The Bell Curve implies that no one is superior to another... The Bell Curve is about IQ NOT superiority... Even if someone wanted to cite the Bell Curve for superiority reasons it would be stupid considering all races have members that have extremely high and extremely low IQ's which would contradict the idea of supremacy...

The only racist here is you..

 

I already explained to you that you don't even know the basic premise of the book. I read the book, did you? The book attempts to claim that average differences in IQ between groups have a partial genetic basis and that public policy needs to take this in to consideration. The argument of The Bell Curve is based on pseudoscience and their policy recommendations are racist. I already explained all of this to you in the other thread. Racism is hatred or intolerance based on race. The claim that some races are genetically inferior in intellect is motivated by racist ideology which is an expression of hatred. Racists can not claim absolute differences since obviously there are smart Blacks so they try to claim average differences. I provided plenty of scientific sources that refute The Bell Curve. You didn't address any of them because you can't. You just resorted to Circumstantial Ad Hominem attacks. You are also blatantly lying by calling me a racist. I am an Egalitarian. I am Pro-Equality. Stop being dishonest.

 

Wait you don't think genetics plays a role in IQ's? I thought that was settled science, apparently not and you're the one using pseudo science...

Of course I have read the book - long before you did..

There is nothing racist about ANY OF IT and NO racism is not hatred or intolerance, you can not tolerate someone and hate someone all day - even based purely on race alone but that doesn't mean one is racist - it just means that person is biased and or prejudice.

The reality is you just have a problem accepting truth.... Had the Bell Curve shown that blacks had the narrowest divergence progressives like you would make the Bell Curve required reading in public schools....

Also, your complaints are founded on nothing considering the Bell Curve found Asians to have the narrowest divergence - therefore it is far from a white "racists" wet dream..

Sorry everyone isn't "the same" which is what the quacks you cited suggest....... Actually the quacks you cited called the damn IQ test flawed - which is retarded in the first place considering all these different races were taking the same damn test so how could the test itself be flawed??????? oh yeah because it didn't work out well for most blacks...

 

I already explained in the thread that while there is a genetic component to intelligence there is no genetic component to racial gaps in IQ. I did this providing plenty of evidence which you ignored.

You are attacking strawmen and you are projecting. If I call you a racist you call me a racist. If I accuse you of peddling pseudoscience you do the same to me. The difference is that there is an actual logical basis to what I am saying and no logic in what you are saying.

 

Of course there is a genetic component to racial gaps in IQ. The Bell Curve proved this...... All these races took a standardized IQ test and guess what? the findings weren't attacked but the test itself was attacked.... The opponents claimed the test itself was designed to give blacks a disadvantage...... Do you have any idea how (*)(*)(*)(*)ing dumb that is? they basically called the test racist yet no other races had a problem with it...

Look you can't call a test racist....

Those who oppose the Bell Curve do so disingenuously. They just don't like the findings.

It's really that simple..

Asians had the least divergence, Latinos, Natives Americans, Spanish were pretty much the same and blacks had the most divergence....

Someone had to be on the bottom.....

 

The Bell Curve proved no such thing. They didn't provide any genetic evidence for their argument they simply assumed there was a genetic component and cited quacks like Rushton to support their case. Go back to the other thread and look at my posts outlining the problem with their argument. The cause of racial IQ gaps is entirely environmental. This was proven and you have absolutely no rebuttal to this evidence.

 

Nature vs. Nurture is garbage..... If that was the case no one that ever came from a crappy family would have a high IQ and would ever be successful, and we know damn well that's not true so your whole "environment" argument is nonsense.

It is absolutely genetic..... Why you think they want proof of sperm donors IQ? if environment only mattered IQ would be moot.

 

You don't know how to address the scientific arguments. There is no scientific basis for assuming that racial gaps in IQ are partially genetic. Period. I've already laid out the problems with The Bell Curve's argument. You didn't know how to respond then and you don't know how to respond now.

 

Then there is the track record. Black run and dominated cities in the US are universally cesspools. It's the same in Africa where they run countries. Crime rate just about anywhere in the world? Ditto.

 

Crime rates for Blacks are not the same all over the world, particularly in Africa where some countries have relatively low crime rates compared to industrialized nations. Environmental differences can easily explain disparities in Socioeconomic Status and standard of living.

 

You seem to be missing the forest for the trees. You are only arguing that racial gaps in IQ are not genetic, you are not arguing that there are no racial gaps in IQ.

You seem to concede that.

 

If you'd paid any attention to my comments you would know that my argument the whole time has been that racial gaps in IQ are caused by the environment. I have never denied that there are racial IQ gaps. That's a moot point. What I have argued is that the cause is environmental, that racist discrimination plays a large part in the environmental difference and that if environment was exactly the same there would be no racial IQ gaps. I provided plenty of evidence that this is the case. There is a fundamental difference in implications between the environmental and genetic hypotheses. If the cause is environmental then the good news is that it can be changed. If the cause is genetic than there can be no change. Look at the evidence I presented supporting my case. Far from missing the forest for the trees I have presented an alternative explanation for the cause of racial IQ gaps, one which is scientifically supported while MrNick has not presented anything supporting his argument or defense of the pseudoscientific book known as The Bell Curve.

 

There are racists in any group/race. It's a fact of life and nothing will ever change that. On the bright side, a majority of people in this world are not racist.

 

No, the problem is exactly the same. Whether due to environment or genes, people (of all races) with low IQ have poorer life outcomes. I don't know what the solutions are for that and I doubt you do either.

 

You've never spent a day in Africa. I am, however, a bit of an old hand on the continent. The whole place is a cesspool and much crime is never reported. Some of the behavior is considered normal. Tribal areas beefs are settled in the tribal areas. There's no country in Africa that has a lower violent crime rate. The only reason that theft is not off the wall is that there's nothing to steal in a lot of places. And environmental differences? What the hell is that? Let me guess. Another liberal excuse. White Africans of European ancestry didn't seem to have problem with the environment.

 

We're not arguing over whether or not people with low IQs have poor life outcomes. We are arguing over whether or not The Bell Curve represents good science with its genetic hypothesis. The solution to low IQs that are caused by environment is to implement policies that help people with low incomes. Since the 1970s the Black-White IQ gap in America has been reduced by 7 or 8 IQ points.

 

Then you are arguing that we already have a policy and it's working?

 

We've made progress. That is for certain. Completely reversing Socioeconomic disparities is hard. No nation in the history of the world has ever eliminated poverty. There will probably always be some level of inequality. What is important to note about racial inequality is that it was created by racism and only progressive policies can reduce the divide.