Are members of the gay community better adjusted, in a moral sense; than homophobes?

Wow, such vile hatred. You don't even know me or my circle. God has standards, so you will have your opportunity to air your grievances when you see Him. Good luck.

 

Yes.

Bigotry, is a two sides blade. One side cuts the immoral bigotry while the other uses the same bigotry but for a good cause. To end the immoral type of bigotry that the religious use.

The enemy has to be beaten with his own weapons.

Regards
DL

 

Thanks for ending with a lie about a god that your own religion says is unknowable and unfathomable.
With your lie, you show yourself as knowing the unknowable and unfathomable.

Yours is an obvious lie but you don't care. Typical Christian.

Regards
DL

 

Save your fingers... this one doesn't want to debate... he wants to preach.

 

I likely know your bible better than you do but if all you are goof for is a thumping war ----

Isaiah 56:11) "They are shepherds who have no understanding; They have all turned to their own way, each on to his unjust gain, to the last one" But do not despair, for the day of judgment is at hand, for the day of judgment and the day of the LORD occupy the same time frame. All the dross will be burned away. (Zech 13:9) & (Malachi 3:3). In that day, "you will distinguish between the righteous and the wicked" (Malachi 3:1

The issue is your homophobia. The least you could do is thump on the issue at hand.

Thumpers who do bot recognize that the bible can be made to say whatever one likes, show their ignorance at bible reading and the fact that they likely never read it.

Regards
DL

 

Sure, when you take Scripture out of context to justify your agenda. The truth is homosexuality is sin and an abomination. The only cure for any sin is repentance and asking God for forgiveness. Alcoholics, liars, murderers, thieves, adulterers, homosexuals, etc. We all need to repent(stop our sinful lifestyle and turn to God). Since you know your Bible better than I do, surely you understand that.

 

To the moderator. I never called the poster a liar. I said the post was a lie. That's a big difference.

 

Out of context. The good old deflecting ploy that gets you away from having to show the wrong context. Hypocrites use it constantly.

Your lie is, homosexuality is sin and an abomination.

Sins always have victims. Who are consenting gays victimizing?

As to god's forgiveness.
Do you really believe that a genocidal son murdering prick of a god is worthy of forgiving you for anything?

As to you and I knowing the bible. I use logos and you use mythos in your reading and that is why you have settled for a vile demiurge of a god while I have a good god.

If you start to read my way, you will reject the immoral prick you follow and follow the only god you can ever know.

Regards
DL

 

My God is good. He is also holy. Your beliefs are typical of sinners that justify their immorality. The good thing about God is that He forgives. The problem many sinners have is they don't believe their behavior is sin. Good luck.

 

Do you worship Satan?

 

No. I do not follow your example.

My god is not a genocidal prick like yours is.

Jesus said to seek god. Not to seek him which is what Christians do. He also railed against the idolatry you practice.

Your bible tells you not to idol worship so tell us why you do.

It also tells you to judge all concepts, like genocide, and decide if they aer good or evil.

You seem to think genocide is good because your god used it to kill instead of cure the way Jesus said things should be.

Why are you not doing what your bible and Jesus ask of you?

Regards
DL

 

I don't think your God and Jesus are the same ones in the Bible.

 

Correct. I am not as immoral and foolish as you are.

I do use the bible though, I am a Gnostic Christian after all, but read it the right way.

I keep a bible in the house even though I think this quote quite correct.

“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
― Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion

Then again, I am a Gnostic Christian and know how to read the filth in it.

Said of Gnostic Christian versus Christian bible reading practices.

“Both read the Bible day and night; but you read black where I read white.”
William Blake.

I would take this further and advise you to read any scriptures from as many POV as is within you. Question everything including yourself.

The bible, if read as a book of wisdom, does have much wisdom though.

You just have to read it the way Gnostics do and revers a lot of the Christian morals.

Christians call evil good while Gnostic Christians call evil, evil.

I E. Gnostic Christians think that bible God, the demiurge to us, is quite immoral for thinking that torturing King David's baby for 6 days before finally killing it is good justice. Gnostic Christians think that evil while Christians think that a good form of justice.

Which group do you think is right?

Regards
DL

 

Here are some of the quotes I use for the Jesus I respect and who helped me push my apotheosis.

Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught and you will note that those are never quoted by preachers/liars.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Allan Watts explain those quotes in detail.


Regards
DL

 

I believe Jesus is right. I believe humans are sinners and need a Savior. I believe the God of the Old Testament punished sin. I believe the Church age is an age of grace. Judgement will come again. I believe you can't understand the Bible without the Holy Spirit.

 

You would be correct on this last even as the rest of your beliefs are delusional and childish.

You ignore that your own bible says that your prick of a god is denying his grace/holy spirit to all who do not believe by hardening their hearts. If I do not believe as you, it is your prick god who is hardening my heart.

I asked you above which group was correct. Christians or Gnostic Christians.

Answer that simple question or I am done with you. I have no time for those like you who have corrupted morals.

Regards
DL

 

Bible believers that follow Jesus are correct. You're following a Buddhist, Alan Watts.

 

So Jesus would torture an innocent baby for 6 days then murder it, all because he was angry with the father. Ok.

I will leave that for the lurkers.

Thanks for the chat.

Regards
DL

 

You didn't address the fact that Alan Watts is a Buddhist.

 

I don't care what you think he is.

It is your morality I was questioning and not your opinion of him as much as your opinion of Jesus.

You think him as big of a prick as his father and that shows your corrupted morals.

Regards
DL

 

I know you don't care what he is, yet you follow his teaching. I follow the Scriptures and Jesus. Jesus called you a "wolf in sheep's clothing".

 

Clothing that your scriptures and prick of a god say that your god has intentionally dressed me in.

You might wonder why.

You have ignored your own bible in our chat as well as morals so we are finished unless you have something new. I will not be peached to by a fool who thinks baby torture is what Jesus would do.

Regards
DL

 

Lol, whatever. Bye.

 

You've already been badly beaten, bloody and battered in this thread. The Bible's a myth in my opinion, but God is real.
It's been proven that homo's aren't any more moral than anyone else, so you lose.

 

You're not in a chat, as Smartmouthwoman said, you're on a soap box, like an Evangelical, preaching nonsense that nobody believes except you. Bye bye.