Are there powerful social forces that want to sexualize small kids?

What on Earth are they thinking? Western citizens are being told we are being paranoid thinking there is a cultural elite that wants to sexualize little kids. Brain wash them in schools. Make 7 year olds transgender. Etc. And you start to believe you're just being paranoid because it is just too incredible to think otherwise. And then Netflix does this: a movie about 11 year olds who "discover their woman hood"... at 11, through twerk dancing. Am I being paranoid thinking there's something really wrong with this?

Someone Greenlit this. Anyone have a reasonable explanation outside of my concerns as to why this movie happened?

 

You're not paranoid, this has been ramping up for decades. What's the end game is anybody's guess.

 

Paranoid to imagine that there is a singular force with that as it's ultimate goal? Certainly, especially given that you have provided zero evidence for such a thing. There are (and always have been) all sorts of social pressures on young people around sexuality and maturity, with countless different influences from different sources with all sorts of different underlying motives and reasons. It's actually much, much more complex than you give it credit for.

This film appears to be a classic example of that. It is presented as a commentary on the very problem you're describing and doesn't appear to have any explicit sexualisation or gratuitous abuse of the young actors, based on the short clips and descriptions I found. I can't help thinking that if anyone is getting anything especially sexual from that trailer, they problem is much closer to them than in the film itself. Maybe the film as a whole comes across differently. I've not seen it but then I doubt you or any of the other people suddenly complaining have too. Have you?

The core issue seems to be misleading marketing via a single poster Netflix put out. That was certainly questionable but is just one element of that complex picture I spoke about.

Those are entirely separate topics you've not touched on here. There is zero justification for lumping them together and presenting them as if they're all part of some singular policy or motive.

Presumably because it told an interesting story about relatable characters.

 

@gorfias No, you're not.

In the 70's, in France, that's what the very progressive newspaper "Liberation" published, I have put a spoiler, because even censored, this picture might be shocking

Spoiler

"Let's learn children love"

And they did more propaganda for pedophilia. That's not one single progressive newspaper, "Le monde", the most important french newspaper did it also. Now both have apologized for their both behavour. A close assistant of the socialist mayor have lost his job recently to be related to those networks.

 

I disagree about the lumping in of issues, particularly the transgender part. If a child is too young to consent to sex, I don't see how adults should put a child on a path to sterilization and mutilation for sex based reasons.

When we do lump them into this topic, I think it means powerful people are making this happens, whether the rank and file populace thinks it monstrous or not.

I wanted to "like" your comment but they really need the other emojis too as, "like" is the wrong response with that spoiler. More like sympathetic outrage. That is just horrifying.

 

At this particular point in time, can such a move even be stopped? What is being described has already been ongoing for centuries, it is simply becoming more readily apparent with each passing year and generation.

 

It's all about eyeballs.

Controversy generates eyeballs.

Hence controversy.

The world is not coming to an end.

Well, as long as Kamala Harris is never a heartbeat away from the presidency that is...

 

The point is that has nothing to do with anything you referenced in this particular post. You could add literally anything to your list of complaints and it would be exactly as meaningless.

You have provided exactly zero evidence that "powerful people" are making any one thing happen, let alone a whole list of things. The scatter-gun of empty rhetoric might work for those already convinced of your grand conspiracy but normal people need at least some evidence, especially if you want to actually have anything done about it.

 

In a world where nothing is wrong except for racism, everything else is morally vague.

 

Kids sexualize all on their own, and studies show that we enter puberty earlier than we used to.

The most powerful force in a child's life is their parents. Parents who are honest and open with their kids wouldn't have a problem with this show. Those that aren't, well, don't let your kids watch the show. Or just accept the fact that kids grow up, enter puberty, and have sex, just like you did.

Sex is normal. Some religious people may think sex is evil, but I think that's just insecurity showing. Agrarian societies still promote child bearing at an early age, as we ourselves did not too long ago in the agricultural South.

 

I totally understand.

 

Pedophilia ( and incest) is wrong to me as, among other things, there will always be real consent issues. Does a daughter have consent against her dad? When she's 4 years old?
Even very small kids know there is something different going on downstairs. It is a just society's job to defend these kids as they grow up into adults that can form their own mores and make judgements and... engage in truly consensual conduct. Movies like this? They appear to be celebration of this young sexuality. I worry that the celebration is really about those who are looking for clearance to exploit these young kids while they are easy prey for a more knowledgeable adult.

 

My god. Is this the result of Q conspiracy theory?

"Your honor, I did nothing wrong, and this movie is my proof of innocence."

Get real. It's a movie. It's not a child sex ring.

 

Have you seen the film? Have you even read the synopsis (note, not the marketing)? Have you seen anything from the person who made it and what she says about the subject matter? What is it about children dancing that leads you to immediately think of sex?

 

Likely for the same thing that leads one to immediately see racism everywhere they look, and hear it in every word that is spoken. The metaphorical "not seeing the forest for the trees" outlook on life. Some individuals are so obsessed with looking for faults, they cannot see anything else, nor bring themselves to comprehend the notion that the faults they are looking for are actually absent from something.

 

I think liberals believe that they are the masters of their own morality these days. And demanding and having this kind of morality trotted out in public is just the method they use to attempt to justify their demented morality. So many examples in today's news. The moral paralysis of these cretins that would then attempt to make it appropriate to prey on children is mental. It speaks of insecurities and power mania and abject sociopathic behaviors that these folks just believe is cool because they said so. We see progressive society wax over the realities of the human sex trade that walks hand in hand with illegal immigration, and progressives turn the blind eye towards it. Why? Or do we really hav to ask? Doesn't their racist approval for trafficking like this expose their complicity and predation of it? I expect that it does. Why does it seem no one gives a cr&o about the smiley face killers? I think that's just one btw of organized predators out there luring underaged kids to their demise, or abuse. But, that's the morality of the progressive mind these days. As a culture, when folks who have access to the most ingenious propaganda start trotting out their base fantasies, it's time the rest of us notice and take steps.

 

Gosh... "Chidden dancing".... I suppose the hooker outfits didn't clue you in?

 

Ever watched - or saw as you clicked on by - Toddlers and Tiaras? Same thing - only much younger. Gobs of makeup, flippers for teeth, fake eyelashes, fake nails. On 3 and 4 year olds!

 

Hooker outfits? You'll have to give me the benefit of your experience and explain what exactly about their outfits is making you picture those children as sex workers.

 

Or that in the poster, at least 2 of the kids are engaged in poses that suggest simulated sex.

Maybe the knee pads are for other rough sports.

 

This seems a common approach for those who defend this. "oh, ... nothing wrong with posing little girls in outfits fit for the stripper pole"... Got it.

 

I know it when I see it -- Justice Stewart, 1964

 

Why are you blaming social forces? This was going on for decades before most of these social media outlets even existed. I remember watching a documentary years ago about child beauty pageants and the multi-billion dollar industry around it. If was a fascinating documentary and covered everything: morality topics like is it child abuse? Psychological impact of the children? The mom princess complex that often drive the mothers to force their children to do it to why child beauty pageants are so popular in the Southern states. The thing you should be blaming is the parents not the "social forces".

 

Pretty much any clothes could be fit for a stripper pole, the whole point of strippers is that they strip their clothes off.

These girls aren't stripping, everything that needs to be is well covered. They're dressed in outfits fit for dancing. They'd be fit for athletics, a day in the park or jogging too.

If I look at the picture and see dancers but you look at the picture and see strippers, maybe the problem isn't the picture. Maybe that is one of the points the actual film raises.

 

Yes, you’re paranoid. No, you’re not paranoid. Unfortunately, nothing is that simple.

Yes, to the nutty stuff of cabals, etc.

No, to a theme introduced by the writer in a basic coming-of-age story.

“Hollywood” is one of our hotbeds of capitalism. Is our practice of capitalism actually what you’re complaining about?