Ask your difficult questions of an Atheist.

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  1. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As it seems clear you are not up to any deeper thought concerning this topic and have no interest in the answers to your questions I am done with you. I have indeed answered every question posed but for you I make the exception. Besides which you are not asking about Atheism.
     
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    So you are basically an intellectual fraud who has to resort to personal insults to avoid answering perfectly valid questions. You Are a disgrace to actual athiests.
     
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    Yes. Might clear some of the crap that's gotten into your head!
     
  4. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are asking ME to prove what I do not believe in rather than proving what you do...primarily because you cannot do so and neither can I. I am Atheist because your God has NOTHING to offer as far as proof and all you offer is manmade literature when asked...that is insufficient and not compelling to those who think on it.
     
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    Everything has to come from somewhere.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks Capt, obvious....is that supposed to be your proof?
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As stated...you have only manmade literature to prove your God. Insufficient and unreliable....thus the failure to convince.
     
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    You can not produce any evidence at all that your god exists.
     
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    Where did your god come from?
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sumeria?
     
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    Creation, design, art and order proves there's a God.

    I know the Christian God is real because of the historical proof and the love of God in Christianity.
     
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    The self existing eternal Godhead.
     
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    No it doesn’t.

    There is no proof of any kind for any god.
     
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    Special pleading
     
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    None of this is evidence for your god.
     
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    Nobody makes this claim other than creationists making a strawman.
    The universe is extremely chaotic.
    Nothing prevents this.
    Nothing here is evidence against evolution.
     
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    So, you're suggesting that if I have an idea of what a god might be, I must actually believe that god exists?

    I have an idea what a unicorn might be. I don't believe THEY exist.
    I have an idea of what a fairy might be. I don't believe THEY exist.

    And, I've been crystal clear about what I don't believe in. I don't believe in the supernatural. If you want to promote some god that isn't supernatural, fine - we'll talk.

    BUT, let's remember that I'm not opposed to you believing in your god. I am concerned about the separation of religion and science as well as the separation of religion and government. All three domains have limitations in what kind of questions they can possibly address.
     
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    1. YOU are contending that there was nothing. Show me the evidence that there was nothing, because so far I don't see any evidence of that.
    2. Please explain what order you see as impossible and tell me why.
    3. "
    4. Scientists see this happen all the time.

    All these fly in the face of the fact that evolution is a foundation of ALL modern biology. This isn't just some "belief" - it is the most commonly used tool in exploring life on earth.

    Yet you simply state it is bogus? THAT's your argument?
     
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    Everything has order and purpose. There is male and female, there are facial differences relating to being male and female. No two people, not even identical twins, are exactly alike.
     
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    Well, I would point out that there are human body parts that are vestigial - that don't help humans today. So, by "purpose" maybe you meant at some time during the evolution of humans those items fulfilled a "purpose". Plus, I suspect "purpose" is vague. Is it the "purpose" of lions to reduce the population of certain prey? Surely there are better ways of looking at that.

    Twins aren't going to be perfectly alike, as genetics doesn't totally and completely define everything. Some stochastic processes are at work. Another example is Holstein cows, which have spots that form due to rules - the exact size, shape and location are not specified.

    I don't see that you presented anything new with that post.
     
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    I believe that people believe in evolution because it is more convenient than knowing God. It doesn't require giving up lifestyles, ways, striving.

    But you don't have to give up anything to come to God, you come as you are, and naturally want to do better.
     
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    The purpose of lions is not to reduce the population of certain prey. Lions were never made to be carnivores-they became carnivores as a consequence of the curse of sin that affected all of creation.
     
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    interesting. But your conclusion is predicated on a ridiculous mischaracterization of "unbeliever's" arguments. In fact virtually every unbeliever believes in the big bang and relativity. Was there a "mind" behind the big bang? Most non-believers would honestly say, beats the hell outta me.

    Sagan most definitely believed in both the theory of relativity and the big bang.

    "Ten or twenty billion years ago, something happened—the Big Bang, the event that began our universe. Why it happened is the greatest mystery... That it happened is reasonably clear. All the matter in the universe was concentrated at extremely high density—a kind of cosmic egg, reminiscent of the creation myths of many cultures—perhaps into a mathematical point with no dimensions at all."
     
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    That is so silly. You can't produce a legitimate Bible written before the 690s.
     
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    What you "Believe" is irrelevant and wrong. I believe in Evolution because it has massive data that supports it and also continues to expand, I enjoy learning.
     
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