Assange lost appeal....

Those that attack ,democratic principles of law and Politics deserve to perish ,lets draw a list ,Prime minister Gillard and her government ,those that still refuse to discuss the reason for going to war ,the entire Australian Parliament .US government,any government that says it supports the 'War on Terror 'more like the War on democratic principles of Law.

Anyone who sees the "War on Terror" as anything more then a WAr on Democracy has rocks in their heads n ot brains.gee,what a flowerinjg of Democracy is going on ,WHERE?

please some Bu(*)(*)(*)(*)e fool ,say iraq and Afghanistan ,go on show us the "Flowering of democracy" last time I looked ,Imperialist military Adventures gone debacle ,quagmire and civil war.

Hardly an enviroment for Democracy to grow.

or do we have to wait another 11years?

Withdraw all troops NOW!

Every drop of blood spent is on the heads of the present Governments ,not the taliban or Alquada ,and definitely not in defence of democracy!

911,happened 11 years ago ,get over it !

Only 3000 died not the over a million that have died since ,so 3000 lives in the uSA is worth 1 000 000 elsewhere ,I think NOT!

get over it the USA bought 911 on itself!

The CIA trained OBL and the Taliban ,funded them and armed them ,Reagan was reponsible for that Brainstorm of stupidity ,and we still pay the price,with cdonstant attacks on Democracy at home and abroad ,3000 lives are not worth any of the attacks on democratic freedoms ,the only way to defeat 'Terrorism ' is More democracy not less.BTW!

Terrorism feeds on a anti-Democratic political atmosphere.

Free Pte Manning ,Defend Assange ,and withdraw all troops NOW!

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/may2012/assa-m31.shtml

Ask any 'American" what is democracy and wait for the silence!

 

Sorry to inform you but you are again wrong ,will you attack politically the coming attempt to extradict assange to the USA ,or will you grab the "we didn't know " defence ?

Seems everytime the 'australian government "says in the USA we trust ,the body bags of dead soldiers get sent back home from far flung Battle fields .trust the USA ,a thousand times bitten the 1001st time shy ,don't mistake the stupidity and craven sycophantic support for the USA mouthed by our government as being the True position of the Australian people ,the present Government is the most hated and reviled Government ever to be constituted in Australian political history ,bar none ,its toxic ,septic [as in support for the USA]and putrid stupid!

they wouldn't know what a Democratic Right was if they tripped over on ,thats right they smash them up don't they.Listen to foriegn powers not their own people don't they ,never discuss the next military adventaure do they ,its every thing other then a discussion on the topic of WAR!

 

How so? Answer my questions.

 

Unfortunately, Australians are a doomed society, unless we can somehow amalgamate together and throw both these political parties to the curb, because both these political parties suckle on the US teat at every opportunity, and neither comprehend nor understand the true meaning of the word democracy.

Unless the people start demanding for a change in our constitution to us to have frequent referendums (Citizens Initiated Referendum) to give us back the power to make important decisions for ourselves, then nothing much will happen, and Australia will continue on its merry ways always kissing everyone’s arse.

 

Have you heard of the adage: "Rose coloured glasses" by any chance?

 

Better to suck our teat than China's. Our milk tastes better. Your country is an irrelevant pimple on the ass of the globe at the mercy of bigger powers. You better figure out whos teat your going to suck, because you don't have the ability to not suck on someone else's teat.

It's us or China. Make up your (*)(*)(*)(*)ing mind because you are going to suck on someone's teat. That is what happens to weak, irrelevant nobody nations like Australia.

 

There should be a public fund set up for Aussies and others to donate to help Julian get out of this mess. I would gladly make a donation if it meant he may be freed.

 

It was reported in the paper the other day that the US may just try to bring him there. I don't know what to believe. I just want him freed.

 

Actually, the people just need the moral fortitude to believe that they don’t need either of you, and once that happens, they can become a power in their own right without having to resort to being dominated pubescent children.

From a military strategic perspective, the US needs Australia more than Australia needs the US. The only military thing Australia has received from the US is second-rate aircraft - they can buy better ones elsewhere.

I agree, right now Australia is internationally considered an irrelevant nobody nation. Unfortunately, they just don’t realise how much they are being laughed at behind their backs - big issue.

The dumb backward people still think they are the international “flavour” of the month & that everyone loves and admires them - but in reality its only for their free money and natural resources.

 

I would also donate money to help him.

 

What paper?

And would someone please answer my question. Has the US indicted, issued an arrest warrant or issued an exradition warrant for Assange?

If so, I'd like to see proof. Otherwise it's just uninformed paranoia.

 

Proof please.

 

So would I. To euthanize him.

 

Not really. We can easily cover the southern Pacific and Indian Oceans with our aircraft carrier battle groups.

Then do so. Go buy from your pals the Chinese.

 

When did this thread become a porochial pissing competition ?

Fact is there has been no indictment issued for the arrest of Assange. Perhaps they may visit that situation later, but I believe the States will let it play out in Sweden a little longer. Like I said before there is nothing to charge him with that wouldn't seriously jeopardise their constitution.

The States have bigger fish to fry. Lets face it if they didn't want dispatches getting in the wrong hands they should of sent them via self destruct mode. Maxwell Smart would of done that.

 

Sounds like the kind of antics one would expect of the KGB..

 

If you accept that the Australian government should somehow have influence over the legal proceedings of another sovereign nation, then you accept that foreign governments should have influence in our courts. Our own governments don't even have influence over the courts in our country, I don't know why anyone expects them to be able to intervene in other countries courts.

God I'm so sick of all these conspiracy theories. If these women feel they've been raped and a judge feels that he has a case to answer, he should be extradited to Sweden. If the Americans decide later down the track they want to extradite him then that's another matter that will have to be dealt with if and when it occurs. That he "might" face extradition to the USA sometime in the future for unrelated matters can in no way be a serious defence to extradition to face two charges of rape.

 

I totally agree. you could not have put it any better.

Let us get this straight. Assange is not being extradited on RAPE CHARGES, he is being extradited to be questioned about them. Assange has stated (and I believe after hearing people who have met him over the last three years, he us paranoid) it is a conspiracy. To think, all this could have been solved, if he simply had some tests done, due to the crazy laws. But true to form, A liberal extremist would consider nobody should have the right to invade their privacy.

LOL... what charges? the only thing anybody could charge him with is reckless endangerment. I don't think it would be worth it for the US to spend all the money needed for that.

 

I was thinking more along the lines of IMF and World bank but seems to be spreading to all who do something they dislike.

You gotta wonder was monica planted into the white house to use clinton as a passifier? LOL.

 

My mistake, I thought they intended to charge him.

I agree, I do not think the USA will seek extradition and I don't think Assange is nearly as important as he, and some of his supporters, seem to think he is, to any western government.

 

Yeah, a real shame for the Australian Diplomacy... I don't believe the guy has done anything wrong other than telling the truth that some governments don't want to be told. He has been framed to serve some time in Sweden and then will probably get transferred to the US to serve more. In any case they are simply trying to remove him from the scene.