Attack Against Christendom

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  1. Iranian Monitor

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    Persian culture ultimately represents at its core a deeply mystical, poetic, polite, Zoroastrian and Sufi influenced, otherworldly culture, confronted by a western culture that is blunt (at times even rude), more into prose than verse, form over substance, power over virtue, focused on worldly possessions instead of any otherworldly rewards. There is indeed a clash of civilizations, but the political lines drawn do not demarcate its boundaries properly.

    In that clash of civilizations, there are those who (in the Zoroastrian tradition) believe in genuine free will, because they do not see victory (for the side of good versus evil, truth versus falsehood) foreordained or inevitable, particularly in any immediate sense. Our individual choice in the battle between good and evil, rather meaningful (as it can affect the duration of this cosmic battle and perhaps even its outcome). The righteousness of a side not necessarily proven by who has might and who has won.

    On the other side, there are those who believe might makes right; all the rest lies intended to merely serve might. Even in their religion, everything already foreordained. The winner (the mighty) the one who is right. Our free will a lie. Until we die.

    The ethos of the purely monotheistic Abrahamic religions sometimes encouraged these attitudes, even if Zoroastrian influences permeated them all, leaving divisions within their ranks that were not necessarily about each of their sectarian and denominational differences. That fundamental division more in the spirit than in the form.

    I was born into the world dominated by what the west has created from these historical and cultural strains, aware of its impermanence, searching for the one Iran has always promised, hoping to see it one day be able to deliver.
     
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    Pro-Palestinians and Progressive Left should join forces to Defeat the Creepy Corrupt Biden Presidency


    "Secular culture is essentially as impossible as atheism because both presuppose the unconditional element and both express ultimate concerns." Implied here is a dialectical view of religion and culture. Religion, in order to achieve realization, must assume form and become culture; in doing so
    it is religious in both substance and intention. But culture, even when it is not religious by intention, is religious in substance, for every cultural act contains an unconditional meaning, it depends upon the ground of meaning. Yet when religion becomes culture, it may lose its depth and its sense of relatedness to the unconditional; it may degenerate into an absolute devotion to conditioned cultural realities. On the other hand, culture, even in the act of opposing 'religion,' may rediscover the unconditional threat and support, and it may bring forth new religious creation.”

    --James Luther Adams about Tillich in “The Protestant Era,” p. 295

    Creepy Joe Biden lets it side. Biden can't do any legislation because of "Democratic" Senators Manchin and Sinema; Joe can't cancel debilitating student debt and letting it slide; Creepy Joe can't stop war in Ukraine and letting it slide; Joe can't stop the bombing in Gaza letting it slide. Joe can't stop blatant price gouging at the supermarket-- and letting it slide. This is the corrupt Creepy Joe's political gimmick—his entire career is based on letting the fascist work in the backroom while pretending to represent his constituency in Delaware where many American corporations are based because there is almost no business regulations enforce on corporations—that's the ground Biden slithers upon. Vice President Harris is another minority mascot to fool Democrats into thinking she is progressive—she is as non-political as Obama was in office. The mayor of the so-called progressive San Francisco, London Breed, is a sycophant of the Wall Street billionaire Bloomberg.

    On November 15, 2023, the Democratic National Committee (DNC) in Washington, D.C. beat and arrested pro-Palestinian protestors—this is the way the Democratic Party treats its own party members! Biden shutout presidential candidate Bernie Sanders from the Democratic primaries twice in 2016 and 2020! That's how bad it is.

    The pre-2024 American election season now with Biden looks the same as when Reagan won the 1981 election. The incumbent president Jimmy Carter also had Middle Eastern political chaos with Iran holding American hostages; the Arab oil embargo in 1973 caused prices to rise and national gas rationing; the American Federal Reserve under Chairman Paul Volcker jacked up banking interest rates to over 20% causing many businesses to go under. Former CIA Director Bill Casey secretly made a deal with Iran to hold the American hostages until after the 1980 national election. The American media embraced Reagan Neoliberal fascism. The Republicans and NeoCons had war plans to heat up the Cold War to enrich the military industrial complex. Today, under Biden the Federal Reserve has jacked up interest rates; Saudi Arabia is cutting back oil production to increase prices and threatening to sell to Russia and China; the US is trolling for war all over the world such as South America, Russian-Ukraine, China, Africa, and the Middle East again. The US mainstream media is biased to the Republican fascists. Over 560 restrictive new election laws aimed at progressives since 2020 have been passed in American Red states to throw the 2024 election in their favor. Biden is in great danger of losing the 2024 election. The improved American economy he brags about is a result of distorted econometrics caused by the Covid-19 pandemic so is illusory.

    Biden is going to lose the 2024 election. American Pro-Palestinians supporters, and American Muslims should join political forces with the American progressive left to push Biden out of the primary elections just as he did with Bernie Sanders. Creepy Joe needs to pay a political price for what he did to American progressives. But what would be the unifying platform for this new coalition? I suggest considering the religious socialism of Paul Tillich would establish common grounds for such a Christian, Muslim, and Pro-Palestinian political forces. I have already referenced Tillich in a number of posts, but for a complete exposition of religious socialism the last two chapters of his book, “The Protestant Era,” (1948 )(pdf.). These two chapters are more informative and up to date than even the modern internet today! I see nothing in Tillich's theology and socialism with would conflict with Islamic beliefs. In fact, the reader will be shocked how much some Christians and Muslims have in common, and how complementary Tillich's views are of other religious traditions.

    The principal opposition to the divine unity is not a satanic principle of mere negation; it is rather a demonic power that perverts the creative power into a mixture of form-creating and form-destroying energy in history. A demon is something less than God which pretends to be God. The demonic operates not only in the individual's willful yielding to the temptation to give rein to the libido of sensuality, of power, and of knowledge. It operates even more powerfully in human institutions. Here Tillich, like Augustine, transforms the primitive Christian conception of
    the demonic so as to make it applicable to social movements.”

    --James Luther Adams about Tillich in “The Protestant Era,” p. 304

    Tillich will blow your mind! Christians and Palestinian Muslims have a shared faith in the Divine, shared symbols, and a common enemy—Christian fascism.

    America's true God is money!

    Next to the last chapter in “The Protestant Era” is titled, “Chapter XVIII: Spiritual Problems of Postwar Reconstruction,” from page 261-69 (only nine pages). A good summary of Tillich's political-religious views, the very last chapter titled, “Tillich's Concept of the Protestant Era” from pages 273-316 (only forty-three pages) is written by a famous Christian theologian named James Luther Adams and gives a complete, but clear exposition of Tillich's political philosophy.

    The famous contemporary American journalist and minister, Chris Hedges, was a student of Adams and is influenced by his philosophical theology according to Wiki.
    Chris Hedges "The Genocide in Gaza"
     
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    Here is a short video of an interview by Katie Halper with Norman Finkelstein on how we lose our humanity while discussing the on-going genocide in Gaza:

    “I don't know how many of you have read Rousseau's* Second Discourse on Inequality (1755). It happens to be very good and one of the things he says in the second discourse is men would be monsters were it not for the natural feeling of pity. It's pity that humanizes people. And then he takes the next step and says the more educated you become, the more you develop that rational faculty which enables you to find excuses why not to do anything when others are suffering. And he says if a person is being murdered outside a philosopher's window he says, 'The philosopher puts his hands to his ears and says to himself, Perish if you will, I am safe.' That's what education does to you. It enables you to suppress and rationalize your natural sense of pity-- not to act out of it.

    And then he has a great line. He says, whenever there's a conflict in the street...you know, two kids beating the daylights out of each other, or two gangs beating the daylights out of each other. He says, quote, 'The Prudent man, the educated man--he walks away.' He says, 'It's always
    the market woman,' or as we would now say, the fish market woman, 'who intervenes to break it up.' She's reacting to her pity. And that's the whole world. The whole world finds all sorts of excuses to walk away.” 1:21 minutes

    *Jean-Jacques Rousseau (June 28, 1712 – July 2, 1778 ) Swiss-born philosopher, writer, and political theorist.

     
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    "My message is simply that the government does not have the right to lie. If a government has a right to lie, it has a right to murder. And I can assure you any government which is able to get away with a lie will get away with murder because the name of the situation you have when a government is allowed to lie, to lie with equanimity, is fascism."

    --A speech given by the New Orleans D.A. Jim Garrison in 1968 (or early 1969) to the Southern California Broadcaster Association at
    the Century Plaza Hotel hosted by the Los Angeles Free Press (video @ 6 minutes).

    Jim Garrison on the JFK Assassination and Fascism - Intro w/ James DiEugenio
     
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    "If a government has a right to lie, it has a right to murder."
    -New Orleans D.A. Jim Garrison in 1968 (or early 1969)

    This is what happens when fascism and religion connect--both Christianity and Judaism are vulnerable, if not already victim.

    German Theologian Paul Tillich cautioned that the church is to be the vigilant guardian that weakens fascism's power by revealing its structures of self-sustaining dynamically generating creative evil--the demonic.

    ” But real demonry—if this word is to have any special content---occurs only in connection with a positive, sustaining, creative-destructive power...This is true also of the last great demonry of the present, nationalism.... National things receive sacral untouchability and ritual dignity. But just there demonization begins. With the creative-supporting forces, destructive ones combine: the lie with which the self-righteousness of one nation distorts the true picture of its own and foreign reality; the violation, which makes other nations an object whose own essence and independent might is despised and downtrodden; the murder, which in the name of the g-d pledged to the nation is consecrated to holy war" (Paul Tillich, The Interpretation of History)."

    Miroslav Filipović: A Franciscan Priest who Turned into BESTIAL Ustaša Child Killer at JASENOVAC
     
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    The Quantum Mechanics of Hope

    The title is a phrase taken from Ernst Bloch's book "Atheism In Christianity," to counter the belief that a spiritual life is escapist. Bloch instead thinks the spiritual life is a teleological hope for a utopian world.

    “...for Bloch a sort of quantum mechanics of hope is at work in religion in that it exists and moves as both particle and wave....
    The figure of Christ as such is thus a particle of hope...the Christ-impulse...is the wave.”

    --Peter Thompson, Introduction of Atheism In Christianity (2009), Verso ed., by Ernst Bloch, p. XXIII.

    I am impressed by this video lecture from the Harvard Divinity School by Professor Matthew Ichihashi Potts who is a "Plummer Professor." What is a "plummer?" I had to look up the term "Plummer" that means, "Plummer Professorship is an esteemed academic position that bridges the gap between different disciplines." That is interesting. One could erroneously assume that professors reaching into other disciplines would result in inferior scholarship--but that's not true! In fact, it is the fallacy of composition. The end result could be superior in methodology and logic than in any single discipline.


    Here is the video summary of "Religion in Times of Earth Crisis: Apocalyptic Grief: Reckoning with Loss, Wrestling with Hope."

    "This is the fourth event in the six-part Religion in Times of Earth Crisis Series.

    Speaker: Matthew Ichihashi Potts, Plummer Professor of Christian Morals and Pusey Minister in the Memorial Church
    Moderator: Diane L. Moore, Associate Dean of Religion and Public Life

    "Human-caused climate change already contributes to manifold global disasters. As the planet inevitably continues to warm, these disasters will be routine and unrelenting. Addressing the reality of loss must become a basic spiritual task of our climate present and future, along with summoning the resolve to respond to all our losses. In this session, Matthew Ichihashi Potts considered the apocalyptic roots of the Christian tradition in order to diagnose how Christianity has contributed to the present crisis and suggest possibilities for a different way forward. Through particular attention to grief and hope as religious categories and with specific reference to various moments and movements from within the Christian tradition, Potts reflected upon the spiritual crisis at the heart of climate catastrophe and suggests the potential for a religious response.

    Matthew Ichihashi Potts, MDiv '08, PhD '13, was appointed the Pusey Minister in the Memorial Church and the Plummer Professor of Christian Morals in 2021. Potts has served on the faculty at Harvard Divinity School since 2013 and has focused his teaching on sacramental and moral theology, ministry and pastoral theology, religion and literature, and preaching. He is the author of two books, Cormac McCarthy and the Signs of Sacrament: Literature, Theology, and the Moral of Stories (Bloomsbury, 2015) and Forgiveness: An Alternative Account (Yale University Press, 2022). He sits on the editorial board of the journal Literature and Theology. He is also co-host of the podcast Harry Potter and the Sacred Text. Potts served as both an officer in the United States Navy and as a college administrator before being ordained a priest in the Episcopal Church."


     
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    The Algebra of Genocide with Chris Hedges & Hatem Bazian


    I would not vote for Joe Biden if you put a gun to my head, and I've had a gun to my head....You know they have to pay, they have to pay for this. I don't want Trump, but I didn't support the genocide. I didn't do this, they did it, and it won't stop...we have the numbers to make them pay.”
    --(video @1:10:22 min.)​

    I agree with Chris Hedges! That corrupt S.O.B. (and a crypto-fascist Zionist) needs to pay for all the damage he has done to the American people in his long depraved unscrupulous demonic political career. And Hedges is correct about Bernie Sanders who has absolutely NO POWER!

    Let this entire shitty fascist imperialist cluster **** of a nation collapse—a nation that assassinated its own president so to enrich itself with global Cold War murder. Americans are still stumbling around like the fools they are. The current psychopathic president is a mass-murder, his anticipated opponent has already murdered 1.2 million Americans, but you wouldn't know it in the Fox News media gulag.

    It's too late for Biden--feed him alive to MAGA! I would enjoy witnessing his political mutilation and dismemberment. Instead of focusing on the domestic fascist insurgence in America, he was globe-trotting around Europe like a viceroy planting the seeds of war in Ukraine and that military base we named, “Israel” which should have never existed.

    Biden is so worried about Israel reclaiming its homeland from some 2,400 centuries ago but is purposely absent-minded of the land stolen from the Cherokee, Creek (aka, Muscogee), Choctaw, Chickasaw, and Seminole American Indians tribes not even two-hundred years ago when 6,000 to 17,300 Native American were murdered in an ethnic cleansing of Alabama, Georgia, and Tennessee by the Indian Removal Act of 1830. The Cherokees (my ancestors) were the last to leave Georgia in 1938 where gold was discovered. And when the survivors of the five tribes settled in the unproductive wasteland of Oklahoma, oil was discovered, which the settlers stole from the Indians yet again! **** YOU FASCISTS!

    It's the same shitty act in Gaza today, but by different butt holes.
    Zionist Israeli fascism is an exact doppelgänger of American jingoistic chauvinism.

    Hedges reflects on the self-immolation of Aaron Bushnell:

    “In his essay, 'Critique of Violence' (1921) Walter Benjamin examines acts of violence undertaken by individuals who confront radical evil. Any act that defies radical evil breaks the law in the name of justice. It affirms the sovereignty and dignity of the individual. It condemns the coercive violence of the state. It entails a willingness to die. Benjamin called these extreme acts of resistance 'divine violence.' 'Only for the sake of the hopeless ones have we been given hope,' Benjamin writes.” --Chris Hedges quoting Walter Benjamin (Video @ 47:10 min.).
     

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