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Australia arrests 183 for setting bushfires that celebrities claim were caused by climate change

Discussion in 'Australia, NZ, Pacific' started by ArchStanton, Jan 7, 2020.

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, but it's always pretty damn dry isn't it. Hotter climate will just make it even more dry. So do you think that science would say that there is a huge difference between dry fuel and even more dry fuel? I'd like to see the science on that if there is any.
     
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    Global warming means more global precipitation.
     
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    There is no proof that any of the current global warming is the result of human CO2 emissions.
     
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  4. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    It was to Hoosier8. You shouldn't be able to see any posts by members that you have on ignore, even if they are quoted in posts. Isn't that how it works?
     
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    Such are the weak minds that true belief builds that they put someone on ignore if they are forced to face some inconvenient truths about climate alarmism.
     
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    Really? And you know that how?
     
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    Uh, that would be human caused. Why did you suspect that there was a good chance that I didn't know?
     
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    Correct

    Your post was a single line and I wrongly assumed it was a continuation of our previous discussion

    Not everyone uses the quote function
     
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    Oh! The way you were using the term...........
     
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    You could try looking up whether the Australian bushfire season is starting earlier in the year, lasting longer and producing more severe fires. If you really want to learn, that is. Or you could join the crowd blaming arsonists for the increased severity.
     
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    According to what?
     
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    You keep using the word proof and avoiding the word evidence. Is there a reason for this?
     
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    The dry latitudes are dry due to Hadley Cell circulation. It is why you find deserts only in certain latitudes. Nothing will change that unless you completely stop air circulation.

    According to original temp records it was warmer in the 30’s but current records continue to change the past to make it cooler due to running through changing computer models. Australia had a very warm and dry 38/39 with fires that killed hundreds.
     
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    Damn! Knew I had seen it somewhere!

    Garnaut review!

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/how-a-c...ars-ago-warned-of-this-horror-bushfire-season
     
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    AR5.
     
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    They are different things.
     
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    Exactly. The reason that extreme weather causes more damage in today’s world is that there are more people and more property in exposed locations. That’s been especially true in California.
     
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    Strange. When I conducted a test 15 minutes ago out of curiosity, anyone that I put on ignore I wasn't even able to see their hidden post, nor could I see posts from members in which they quoted the ignored person. Now though, after another test, I can see hidden posts and other members posts in the way that you would've seen mine - minus the quote. No idea what's going on.
     
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    Yes and one is readily available while the other is virtually impossible in a pure scientific sense.
    Anything I show you to demonstrate AGW will be dismissed by you as mere evidence and not proof.
    See the difference now?
     
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    Could be more or less than 100% depending upon which period we measure it.
     
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    No I understand all of that, it's all VERY clear, but correlation is not causation. This is my entire point.

    No, its way too early to say that, but it's also way too early to say that it's NOT the arson. Do you acknowledge that?
     
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    What do you mean, "change the past?" Like, alter data?
     
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    Yes. There is no proof, only correlation. Plus the history of the Holocene in which the nine previous warming periods half of which occurred at a higher rate of temperature increase and reached a higher maximum temperature occurred at constant atmospheric CO2 concentration.
     
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    Like what was revealed by ClimateGate.
     
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