Australia lockdown overload!

So you're also Crank?

 

I suppose you too are behind that sort of restriction, I guess the warning here in America about how quickly things can go from being able to move about freely to a police state can happen! One only has to look at the regressive path Australia is headed back to and how it's citizens actually cheer on their oppressors for doing so..

 

It restricts their freedom of movement therefore it's mandatory. Travel is an excercise of freedom of association.

There is nothing "voluntary" about it.

 

LOL Nice try

Convict Labor during the Colonial Period

So in other words they were slaves, cheap ones at that! And they were sold/traded to the original colonials, I can't find anything suggesting the original colonials were convicts or were part of a America penal colony..

 

And that's the point! This post clearly demonstrates how easily it is to strip people of their freedom and how indoctrination, fear and shaming by a totalitarian regime can happen and IS happening!!

 

Then again one boatload of failures didn't make it! Mother nature and her cleansing took her toll on them

 

This guy violated the quarantine laws, snuck into the province and got caught. So I guess it did happen involuntary to him. Look at it as he was sentence to two weeks in jail served alongside his quarantine and I bet if given the choice of a jail cell or a motel room with wife [edit: HA meant Wifi but could mean both I guess if she's in there too] and cable he would have chosen the motel room.

Wonder what relief during the day the people get and what about meals, I would guess they are paying for their own meals do they order delivery three times a day?

 

Weirdly true. Before the revolution about half the settlers were transportees who were sentenced to being sent to America.

 

I'm not sure it's gone that far, however Australia seems to have gone from the lucky country to V for Vendetta so fast I can hardly believe it.

 

And apparently Australian "conservatism" is more like warmed over American leftism than any form of American conservatism.

Maybe the Blooming Onion at Outback has its own set of racial COVID rights now I'm now aware of.

 

Well Australian conservatism is just like conservatism in the rest of the anglosphere. The US is the exception. Our conservatism was to support and defend a revolution. That's not typically "conservative."

 

Australian "conservatism" is not much different than UK "conservatism" which still favors a strong central government, which is no surprise given how the three countries came to be - two of which never had to fight for their rights, and have easily surrendered them.

 

Are you forced to travel?

 

Truckies etc are exempt. The hotel quarantine thing only applies to 'recreational' travel.

 

80% of Australians agree with lockdowns and travel restrictions, so yes.

 

You realise that quarantining was done in many parts of the world, well into the 20thC? So were mandatory vaccinations.

There is nothing happening (in terms of quarantining and mandatory vaccines for travel) that hasn't happened before, and no one minded then either. People who don't like those terms, simply don't travel. Remember that travel is a luxury, and entirely optional for 99.9% of us. Complaining about it is like complaining about the limited range of colours in Rolls Royces.

 

Where does this bizarre idea that lockdown means being indoors, come from? We can be outdoors 24 hours a day if we want. Restrictions apply to INDOOR activities, and crowds.

 

Of course it's voluntary. If you know that your trip to Italy means you do two weeks quarantine when you return, and you choose to go anyway, then you have very clearly made an informed choice to submit to that quarantine.

 

Exactly!

You would have to have emotional fortitude and consistency of a toddler, to agree to something - then freak out five minutes later when it becomes reality.

 

You realise it's possible to VOLUNTEER for something mandatory, dontcha?

 

Kinda like the 'power' America has in the 21stC, now that all social cohesion is lost and States go their own way?

Yeah, I'll pass on that. I'll take the quiet power of a "meek" but unified nation - Eastern Hemisphere Style - any day.

 

Because we retain the power of civic unity - the very thing lost by the US and the UK this century.

 

It's what they call themselves. Who are we to argue?

 

There is nowhere in the world (today) that we can move about freely ... every nation has borders and restrictions. The days of that kind of 'freedom of association' are long gone, Dude.

 

Irrelevant. Nations infringe upon liberties routinely. It does not alter the original point: it is mandatory, not voluntary.

It holds little difference to poaching off the king's land.

As an aside: it is an example of precisely why I do not believe in nations and border- imaginary lines that demarcate tyrant's rule.