Australian politicians need to be replaced.

Discussion in 'Australia, NZ, Pacific' started by culldav, Feb 28, 2012.

  1. dumbanddumber

    dumbanddumber New Member

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    Years ago on 4 corners it was showing retired PM's and the fact that they still get funding from the government to have an office open with a secretary.

    I thin the average cost to tax payers was $2 million per PM.

    What the fark? Kick these c#nts out of there FFS.
     
  2. bugalugs

    bugalugs Banned

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    Have become?!?!?!

    Did you miss the Howard years?

    Google "non-core promise" and get back to us.
     
  3. bugalugs

    bugalugs Banned

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    Why on earth do you think you should have a say in who leads or represents a political party?

    If it means that much to you - JOIN THE PARTY AND HAVE YOUR FREAKING SAY.

    Just stop whinging about it.
     
  4. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

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    With all respect, you need to cut back on your medications.

    I didn't say WE the people should have the right to determine who leads a political party. What I said was; we the people should have the right to determine WHO leads OUR country, not the faceless people behind the political parties.


    When I stated lying corrupt politicians; I was referring to Juliar and her inability to tell the truth, but I also acknowledge what Abbott said about him not always telling the truth. I don't think I have been at all biased in my comments towards the Labor, Liberal or Greens parties in regards to my comments.
     
  5. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

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    I suppose if I joined the Labor party I wouldn't get a say or vote in who my leader was; these decision are made for me by Union power brokers and faceless men of Labor.

    No one is whining about it, just making a point!
     
  6. Ziggy Stardust

    Ziggy Stardust Well-Known Member

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    Decline in IQ? What now?

    Are we going to have our kids go to "Maths camp" and start teaching them earlier and earlier like these asian countries that are over taking us are? We're way ahead of UK, the US and most of Europe.

    So I suppose you wouldn't care if Indonesia sank into the ocean and all died either then? Now I understand! Oh yeah, those (*)(*)(*)(*) poor, sick and uneducated people, so ungateful!

    90%? Well you just grabbed that figure out of your arse didn't you. For starters, 12% of the electorate votes for the Greens, so assuming it's only them that are in favour of foreign aid (and actually increasing it), you've already lost $1000. If you can't see how aid to Indonesia is in our national interest, well... all I can say is I'm glad smarter people than you are running the country. And throwing money at the rural Aboriginal populations hasn't exactly been particularly successful in the past. It's not like we can't afford to give aid to indonesia, and provide for our own citizens. We're one of the richest countries in the world ffs.

    Ooohhhh, a "traitor", ouch! No, that's not what I said, at all, it's just you building a big old straw man like an idiot.

    lol, yes... righto, goodluck with that.

    So, a completely stupid and childish attack on the PM's intelligence, not that I expect anything more from you. Wow, anyone would think Shorten and Arbib are fricken bogey men. No, it's not a conspiracy, the PM negotiated with them presumably in consultation with her party.

    And... they've put the ABS on it. Don't get hysterical.

    The politicians are not selling land, agricultural companies are selling it. The private sector is selling it.

    You're a complete and utter moron if you truly believe that Hanson has been unfairly called a racist. She's said, many, many things, she's not some bloody helpless, innocent victim ffs.
     
  7. DominorVobis

    DominorVobis Banned at Members Request

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    Well it seems like you are, well join a union lol, cut off your face

    In Australia, we vote for our representative in Parliament and the party for which they stand. He/She is your MP, you whinge to them, canvas them, go to their meetings, functions etc.

    In the US, they vote for a personality, and the party He/She represents.
    They get a bigger circus then we do, and at least as many whingers.

    The system works, yes it could be better, but not until we change.

    We need to rid ourselves of our apathetic, self interest and be prepared to look at the big picture,be active, join a party or support an independent, write letters, be involved

    And not just at election time, all the time, and not just complain when something doesn't suit you.
    If your not part of the solution you're part of the problem.
     
  8. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

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    I’m please you think Australian school children are doing so well against the international standards when you consider that Australia is in the Asian Pacific region, and not in Europe or North America where under your philosophy they would be excelling.

    The rest of your comments I really don’t know how to reply to them, because they just sound like a Greens voters comments with the mind of a 12 year old.

    Besides a 12 year old with NO life experience & Ziggy Stardust, who else would agree that its in Australia’s best interest to send $100’s of million to Indonesia to build schools when Australians kids are leaving school not even being able to read & write, and 300,000 Australian’s are homeless.

    What Nationality are you Ziggy?
     
  9. DominorVobis

    DominorVobis Banned at Members Request

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    I do and if you don't think I'm a true blue Aussie through and through then I can't help that. Helping others less fortunate then ourselves is an Aussie tradition that goes back as long as we do. Even the poorest Australians are well off by world standards.

    Fair Go mate
     
  10. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

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    I simply don’t know what anyone could possible say to someone like you who would prefer to give away $500million dollars of Australian tax payers money to build schools in Indonesia to support the education of Indonesian children. Meanwhile there is still a high percentage of Australian school children falling through the educational “cracks” through lack of Government funding whereby these students are finishing school still being unable to read and write.

    Maybe you should take a trip to Indonesia and see if their school statistics stack up to the same level as Australia’s in relation to the disproportionate amount of Indonesian students leaving high school not being able to read & write. Then tell me if Indonesians children need the $500million more than Aussies kids.

    If there is nothing wrong with the Australian educational student standards and the system in general, then why did Juliar announce a $6billion dollar injection into education over the next decade? Did she announce this for kicks? She knows the level of IQ's in Australian school students are dropping and have been dropping for some time thanks to Australia's 3rd world educational facilities - just like Indian Universities are producing higher qualified and educated graduates than Australian Universities.

    I bet you didn’t know all the $500million was going to the Indonesia province of Ache 99% Islamic region to build schools for Muslim students? The terrorism group called “Tamil Tigers” with close connections with Al-Qaeda are know by the Indonesian Government to operate and have training bases in and around the Northern province of Ache.

    I wonder why the $500million of Australian tax payer donated money wasn’t spread around to build some Christian schools in Indonesia as well; or for that matter spread around to build schools in other areas besides Ache?

    If you doubt what I am saying, just look on google for yourself, all the information is there waiting for you to read!! Just remember, that unaccounted $300million dollars of Australian public donated money for the victims of the Tsunami all went missing in the “Ache” province. I wonder why? LOL LOL Its still never been found to this day!!

    Those people are not really peeing on our legs and trying to make us believe it raining, are they? LOL LOL LOL

    There’s an old adage I have always been guided by, and it has never failed me once: “Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me”.
     
  11. Uncle Meat

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    Which would you prefer:

    1. Ignorant Muslim children growing up near terrorist training bases, or;
    2 Educated Muslim children growing up near terrorist training bases?
     
  12. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

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    Really. how clever do you have to be in putting on a sad face and pretending you're poor - international media directed to some suburbs of Sydney and outback Australia would definitely consider those areas and the people living there as a 3rd world standard, BUT WAIT, we are living in the rich country called Australia, so maybe WE call ASK for some UN international aid just like Indonesia and Malaysia?
     
  13. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

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    Why shouldn't the money have been spread around to build other schools in other areas besides Ache? After all, Ache benefited from the generosity of the $300million missing dollars from the Australian people who donated that money to ALL Indonesians not just them, but hey scabbing another $500million in the name of "aid" from foolish Aussies is child's play to them now. LOL

    Indonesians and God knows who else puts on a sad face and shoves out a food bowl and cries poor-mouth, and some stupid Aussies would cut off their own hands to donate money to them without knowing anything about these people or their true circumstances or where their money is going. LOL Amazing!! No wonder Australians have low IQ's and internationally renowned as be backward and dumb!! Even Employees at Indian call centres are being trained and educated that Aussies are dumb, and that they have to talk slower than normal for them to be able to communicate effectively. LOL LOL

    When you have this kind of attitude that some "so-called" Australians would prefer that Australian money goes to helping strangers and foreigners over Australians, then its no wonder these foreigners are taking full advantage.
     
  14. ian

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    Lol. Is that you Pauline?
     
  15. ian

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    Just a question, ever been to Indonesia?
     
  16. Uncle Meat

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    With all due respect, it seems as though you don't fully understand the benefits (to Australia) of giving foreign aid to neighbouring countries.
     
  17. bugalugs

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    You do. Its called an "election".


    Yeah - right:
    Jonesy will be so proud of you
     
  18. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

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    Maybe you would like to convince the 300,000 homeless Australians that its in the best interest of Australians if tax payer money goes to funding the welfare of foreigners over them - or - explaining to a family why their "special needs" child has to do without because their is NO government funding for such projects, but meanwhile our politicians are giving away $4billion dollars per year in foreign aid.

    In my book, charity starts at home, and you would be a LIAR if you didn't think the same. Otherwise sell everything you own and donate it to foreign aid and live in a tent.
     
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    In my book, foreign aid brings many domestic benefits, and you would be IGNORANT if you didn't think the same.

    Seriously - do some research before posting. You are talking nonsense.
     
  20. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

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    The next time our local food charity food fan does its rounds; you're invited to came and tell these homeless hungry Australians that Australia's foreign aid of $4billion dollars is benefiting them. Try convincing homeless hungry Australians of your bullshyte and see what they tell you!!
     
  21. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

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    Yes. Have you ever been to some outback Aboriginal communities or department of housing estates - or some suburbs in Australia that look like that belong in 3rd world African countries? Maybe the media should be portraying photographs of these places to the UN and other countries highlighting that Australia ALSO has a poor class of people and areas, but they hide it under the carpet as the politicians prefer to "big note" themselves instead by making out everything is okay on the domestic front by giving away $billions in foreign aid instead of helping their own destitute people.
     
  22. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

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    I know the benefits don't go to helping Mr & Mrs average or Australia's poor people; it just ends up making ONE MORE multi-millionaire or billionaire.
     
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    Could you please name a suburb in Australia that looks like that belong in a 3rd world African country. THX - we await your reply
     
  24. ian

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    I dont mean 5 days in Bali lying by the the swimming pool. Your posts tell me you know nothing about Indonesia, if you had really been to a 3rd world country anywhere you would not be comparing it to Australia.
    Yes
    Non existent. Now Im starting to doubt you have ever been to Australia, are you another American troll pretending to be Australian?
    The sad thing is that Australia spends billions every year on attempting to help Aboriginal communities, the fact that most of this money is diverted, misspent or goes on "advisor salaries" means the Aboriginal communities in remote areas miss out. This has zero relevance on whether or not we should be investing in aid for Indonesia.
     
  25. ian

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    Actually no, if you go to Indonesia you can see the schools that have been built with some of this money.
     

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