Australian shipping???

What utterly bullocks.
You put a system under pressure, and it will develop.
Other countries are doing it, in one way or another, but not dumbarse Liberals and Nationals. They are holding us back, and contribute to global warming.
But worst, they hinder our development.
The best thing ever to come from Labor was the Carbon Tax, despite the mistake of not adjusting to the markets. Still, the best political decision in 2 decades.
Now under Libs we are completely busted......
A PM, who whores with the coal industry.
And the next thing is offering our country for the world's nuc waste to be stored here forever.
If we don't get back to start producing what we need ourselves we are lost.............
Regards

 

Gee, I must have hit a nerve! Lol. Most threads on this forum are policy based, gotta get a grip of reality my dear friend. Untangle ya knickers and have your say....go hard I say, but don't expect others to subscribe to your view Gazza, it ain't going to happen. There is no respect in politics or policy discussion, it is an extremely robust process. Be clear and stop chasing every little point monotonously and meticulously. You insult people more directly on this forum than any other member here and you talk about bigotry Anyway your thread is about shipping, so carry on I say and don't get sidetracked.

 

No surprises then...

 

I am sorry, are you saying that the intention of increasing prices is NOT impacting the poor greater than the rich??? After all that IS the intention of the policy and I noted you made NO excuse for such but actually lorded.

At what cost??? How many lives is it worth to make your policy a success??? I am surprised that you still are unable to understand the complete ramifications and yet you are happy to throw people to the wolves to make your sensibilities feel good...

Other countries are doing it so it makes it OK to cut the poor off to appease your sense of justice... WHAT A CROCK... Direct action by the Coalition directly reduces CO2 along with abatement. Greens/ALP policy actually doubles the CO2 emissions while abating ALL of it, by their own modelling...

If you truly were addressing CO2 emissions you would stand behind ANY effort to reduce it not whine and moan because of the cost...

The fact is if you reduce the amount that is being emitted then the amount needed to abate is less. IF you increase the amount while just abating it all cost will continue to increase. LOGIC dictates true reductions will cost less in the long run than paying to offset your sensibility while actually doing nothing... Obviously from your ignorance on HOW the carbon tax actually worked, that point is lost on you.

There we go, simply bias hatred of political parties blinding you to the reality of what is happening, sad really...

BUT while you single out one point (which was not intended) of a post to say BS... you missed the point of the comment, which if you want to read back was to show YOUR hypocrisy, NOT the policy... Here we see it again when you attempt to say that the poor will not be affect and yet you lord price pressure to make change… NOTHING of substance as per usual

 

I am sorry to say while you want to lecture me on the post of the forum being policy based the problem is that YOUR posts are not.

I think it is interesting you put yourself above everybody else in the forum about their views while contributing NOTHING. So simply another Attempt to insult while trying to show that bigoted pre-eminence you continue to claim. ME, I think others can decide what they want to subscribe too and what they don’t. Again, your view interests me not… If I want your view I will read the ALP and Union webs page…. Talk about getting in touch with reality.

That is your view and we all know that because you believe politics is your forum to simply insult anybody who does not agree with you. Again, that is why Shorten is on the way out, all he has is insult for anybody who does not agree with him, which at present is majority of the population. Unfortunately the reality is, there is a great deal of respect in politics Robust discussion is NOT insult anybody you can, as you seem to think. Robust discussion is NOT put your own morals and opinions to aside to support your parties… In fact, YOUR inability to address any point here clearly shows you have no idea what a robust discussion IS… Talk about getting in touch with reality

Yes… By this comment we can see the poster actually has no idea what BIGOTRY actually means… but don’t get me wrong, I label YOU as a racist bigot. I make no effort to hide this with vailed insult as you attempt because you have demonstrate these very qualities and continue to do so… If I do insult you, I have already told YOU why, with demonstration as to why you have lost ANY respect I may put to your words… If others want to agree or disagree with me, I DON’T CARE, That is my opinion and I stand by it. They can form their own, if my words influence them I make no excuses. Others will make their own decisions and I will not predetermine their opinions just in attempt to insult you as you have on this page…

Sorry but as stated, Your racist bigotry disgusts me and has always, NOTHING will change that until you learn to educate your ignorance and begin to actually discuss things not just attempt insult…

The first time the poster has actually even recognised what the thread is about… shock horror… BUT nothing to contribute, bar their usual vitriol and hatred for all who does not agree with them… Surprise, surprise…

 

Here is the perfect example of what me is talking about

 

Non what so ever, I just went fishing and didn't need much bait before the sharks came sniffing for blood.

Something MUST have rang true.

 

Aren't they marvellous??? Just demonstrates the hypocrisy and stupidity Australians will delve, just to defend some stupid sense of worth. Oh and watch the ramifications when they bounce back claiming I called them stupid... They will be unable to understand what stupidity actually means, so in they will come with hatred and bile (spitting and frothing at the mouth) claim insult.

Turnbull made me laugh in his first week as PM, flat out insulted Shorten, then shorten ran around the media amplifying those insults and agreeing with them. BECAUSE he did not understand what was being said, just as you will see on these pages…

 

When I was in the military we were taught that it is often best to use the enemies tactics against them. When the debate goes into the gutter it sometimes needs to be fought there.

 

Everyone includes both you and I, your greatness.

 

^^ This is the very first line of your opening post, Garry. Obviously, you posted it as the very first thing because it was the most important point of your whole premise and debate about shipping in Australia.

Obviously you posted it to invite debate, not to insult people or turn people off responding to you. Attack in the first line of your OP, then accuse other of being insulting. Some MAJOR disconnect happening here.

 

Gwendoline, I am sure that you are quite aware that Garry sees himself at a much more elevated level both philosophically and intellectually and always believes he holds the moral high ground.

 

Oh, yes. Some invested in their own personal silly little egos above all else. And they don't contribute much to anything either. Hot air and aggression. Not so interesting or naunced.

 

Again no surprises then... just the usual attempts at insult...

 

Exactly.......

 

So you start in the gutter and pretend it was dragged down by others, again NO surprises, after all YOU have not debated anything... you have not even addressed the topic... As our original interaction if you start with insult expect nothing but the same in return…

 

This was our first interaction on this thread, you assumed my undirected comments were about you. Any attack on you was by your conscience.

 

And yes, I began with such, even shutting down an attempt to make this topic partisan... but since the post was hijacked by nothing but attempt to post vile hatred. IF you think I care if people like or hate me, you are sadly mistaken. If you are far too bigoted to discuss policy, then don't come running in posting hatred and venom just to score some point.

I attack nobody in the first line, that line is to insure people who want to simply play partisan politics and throw disparagement (as you do here) while not even addressing the post or the policy will not be received with respect or happy thoughts... If all you want is throwing insult because others don't agree with you then bugger off...

True the MAJOR disconnect is from you. Again you say the most important point was "Ok, let us see if we can have a discussion about a topic without the meanderings of the superficial lobotomised drones." No, that was to deter stupidity... the Important point IS shipping or was that missed upon YOU... after all the diatribe was about shipping, NOT the meanderings of the superficial lobotomised drones...

And look, those superficial lobotomised drones hijacked the thread, completely unable to discuss the topic at hand...

 

Touche! You started your OP with insult, Garry... and should 'expect nothing but the same in return'. That's how it works, right? According to you.

 

Your psychological projection is ridiculously observable. Your presumption is mind blowing.

 

Bottom line, Garry, no one wants to discuss or debate anything with someone who acts as aggressive and exalted as you do. Human, the lot of of us, just in case you forgot.

 

Sorry but unlike you, I do not change my spots with every thread I enter. OUR first interaction was in another thread where I pointed out that you began with insult, so do not expect any different...

I do not change my opinions based upon who is in government, who creates a thread or who stated what. When I say this is my opinion, I MEAN this is my opinion, not just some pretence of what I think others expect of me…

 

No no no see you are confusing your tactics for mine.... No once you reach the gutter, I just pin you there thrashing in your own effluent.


This is a perfect example, I tossed the bait and you just bloody well had to bite, you couldn't resist.

Eating out of my hands... lol

 

I am sorry, want to talk about aggression??? WHO is it that entered with insult and nothing of the topic??? Would that be YOU??? Human??? To me that is questionable, but if so, I would expect that IF you want to be treated as such you would treat others with the same. You do not, so don't expect it from me...

Interest me, I may give you some respect, disrespect me, receive the same. Attempt to insult me, open the gates. If you cannot talk about the policy then don't respond, don't expect me the change because YOU get hurt feelings...

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eloquence was never your strong suite, but an interesting way to say nothing...

 

I think your just being envious :/. It's all good, keep going and one day you will reach these dizzy heights of proficient linguistics.