Unless you are going to toss in natural abortions, aka miscarriages, abortion is never a consequence. A choice is never a consequence. A consequence is the result of a choice. There may be only one consequence to a choice, it there may be several possible ones. There are possible consequences that can come from an abortion. But an abortion, as contexted in this thread, is always a choice, one that every person who gets pregnant has the right to make.
LOL.... I am sooooo glad you got that off your chest....now what TF that silly mess has to do with women's right to have an abortion or anything else of importance I just don't know and don't care to know..
Almost nobody thinks any differently. The disagreement is over the point at which the fetus becomes a person.
Don't disagree that your description of the power distribution is currently the way things are, but that certainly does not mean it is just or correct. In fact, it isn't!
Why should we allow people to "choose" to commit a homicide? Abortion is absolutely and undeniably a homicide (don't waste my time with your errant opinion that it isn't).
What’s the leading, preventable form of death for African Americans????? So do black lives really, REALLY ......matter?
The key difference between any other homicide and abortion, issues of legal personhood aside, is that a ZEF is impinging upon the woman's bodily autonomy. The ZEF is not the one impinged upon since nothing is taking its bodily resources. Similarly, if you were hooked up to me for some bodily resource of mine, I could, at any time, end that use of my bodily resources, even if doing so meant your instant death. It's the same principle that prevents a person from having to give up blood or organs upon demand to save another's life.
He is factually correct, although he is attempting to twist it. Abortion is a homicide. Not all homicides are illegal. If someone jumps out in front of your car and dies because of it, that is a homicide. It is not murder. Murder is only one form of homicide.
Yup, I know he's "factually " correct since he's blabbed it so many times.. He doesn't seem to realize it himself though.....and that's why I keep asking him why he hasn't called the cops..
I don't know, why don't you show me...with FACTS. Yup, it matters that black women have as much right to get an abortion as white women...… Why? Did you want them restricted ??
Here is another take on the matter of "choosing to commit a homicide". Every time we allow a person to come off life support. Homicide is the killing of another human, period. Now there can be debate.as to whether not putting a person on life support to start with is homicide or not, but because a direct action of the removal of life support causes a death, that action is homicide. Is it your argument that we should never allow the choice to take a person off life support?
I'm glad you asked that. Generally there is oversight by a doctor and if the person is expected to recover based on experience the doctor has with that situation, no the patient should not be allowed to be taken off life support. My problem is that with an abortion homicide there is no oversight. It is purely one person's right to wantonly kill another at her whim. If the baby is expected to die naturally shortly after birth based on a doctor's experience with that situation, then yes abortion can be considered. If this is a normal healthy child in utero, then why would we allow a woman to wantonly kill him or her with no oversight? Your analogy with people on life support is a great example of this. If they are expected to recover, you would be ok with taking them off life support?
So you think black women don't have as much right as white women to have abortions based on percentages???
