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  1. Nonnie

    Nonnie Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    About 15 years ago, I prolapsed 2 lower discs in my back. After a few months, I managed to get up and about and to this date, avoided an operation. If I lean or stretch, I suffer the next day. So, thinking ahead when I'm working, all is good (ish).

    With age, early 50's, sitting down even for short periods of time, back seizes up and it takes a minute or so to loosen up.

    So my question is, has anyone been in the same boat and either used a back support or some treatment that helped? What it is, I was lead to believe using supports on backs, legs, arms etc.. they don't allow the muscles to strengthen. I just wondered if a back support is detrimental in the long run.
     
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    I suffer some back pain, like about a half the population of the planet. I try and sit up straight, don't make sudden movements and take exercise regularly. Gardening is OK provided I take care, short spells etc. Be careful what and how you lift stuff. There are some creams which may help.

    (Note: you can blame god or evolution, depending on your inclination)
     
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    Well, a few years ago I had backpain (no diagnosed prolapse, but suspected). I tried muscle relaxants, physical therapy, a TENS unit (electricity), high dose ibuprofen (800 mg) and chiropracty. The only one that relieved pain was the ibuprofen and the TENS unit (only helped while it was on). Got a prescription so that my employer bought me a back support chair (took 9 months to get it, but that's another story). After about 2 or 3 months with the better chair, back pain went away. I work at a computer most of the day. A few weeks ago, i worked at home for two days, and sat in a mediocre chair. I'm having twinges again.
     
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    Yeah, ibuprofen works well too.
     
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    Not really the same, but perhaps similar:

    My sister has(had) really bad scholiosis. In high school, she was prescribed a back brace that she would have to wear, ostencibly, the rest of her life. She wore it for about an hour and then threw it in the trash and told my parents she would rather suffer the pain and she would never wear it again. So they started sending her to a chiropracter. This was roundabouts 2000 or so, and chiropracty(sp?) was still viewed by many as quackery. But after what I remember as only a few months of weekly visits, she was all straightenned out and remains so to this day.

    I've been blessed with a strong back, so I don't have any first hand knowledge. When I get pain, I stretch, go on short walks and consume bone broth, and it goes away in a few days, a week at the most.
     
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    I'm so sorry to hear this, I don't have a bad back, I find when I haven't exercised for a week my back tends to go out, for some reason jogging keeps my back aligned, but when it does go out I pretty much lie on the floor with my arms stretched out T - shaped, pull both legs in to my stomach then swing my legs to one side and turn my head to the other... crack ... crack back is all sorted.

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    Some suggestions:

    * Lay on a tilted table (with feet secured to allow the spine to decompress) or buy a Teeter Hang-Ups type of device (devices of this type can be bought used on ebay, craigslist, etc.). No need to hang upside down like a bat (unless you can handle it)...just tilt enough to allow for spinal decompression.

    * With your hands, hang freely from a poll or tree branch so that the spine (below the shoulders) can decompress.

    * Relaxing in a pool to relieve pressure on the spine. You can get a YMCA or gym membership just to use their pool, unless you have your own pool. Well worth it!

    * Stay off the drugs/pain meds as much as possible. One does not need the additional side effects that will end up making you worse in the end. Use CBD daily. You can buy it as an ointment/cream (topically absorbed), sublingual liquid, or capsules. It's now sold everywhere because it's legal in all 50 states. If you can buy THC edibles, take a micro-dose (not enough to get "high") at night to have a good night's rest (and/or at daytime if you need it).

    * Sugar & foods that quickly convert to sugar do a LOT of damage to the body, including weakening the bones, joints, ligaments, tendons, collagen tissue, etc. So eat a keto-style diet. This includes pretty much anything except sugar/sweeteners, starches (rice, potato, bread, pasta, grains, sweet potato, beans, legumes, etc.), fruits (except berries which are OK), and certain "sweet" veggies like carrots, beets, and corn. Popcorn is OK too (use cheap air-popper, drizzle with avocado or olive oil, sprinkle with salt + garlic powder = delicious!). This "diet" is also a great way to lose weight & normalize blood sugars for those at risk or diabetic...and it also forces you to eat nutritiously dense foods, as it leaves out all the low-nutrient starchy foods that quickly fill you up.

    * Look into magnetic therapy products for facilitating quicker healing. There are magnetic bracelets & anklets for treating the whole body (blood runs through the magnetic field)...and magnetic pads or wraps for treating specific body parts, including magnetic shoe inserts, magnetic seat pads, bed pads, pet pads, etc. Here is some useful information to begin with. Youtube also features many good lectures/presentations by experts in this field.
    https://biomagscience.net/which-side-of-a-biomagnet-to-use/

    * Drink only "magnetized vortex water". It is water which has been run through a magnetic field as it spins like a tornado. The water's structure is altered to make it much "wetter" and more penetrating, and allows it to more readily enter the cells. The restructuring also "erases" the old water's "memory" so that you're not putting harmful "frequencies" into your body (water picks up a lot harmful energies as it travels from its origin through pipes to your home). You can buy or easily construct your own "structured water".

    To buy: The following are just couple example sources. A google search will reveal others. Just type "Magnetic Vortex Vitalizer".

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    [SOURCE 2]

    To construct your own: NOTE: you can find strong neodymium magnets at any hardware store or online.



    More info about magnetized vortex water.



    And check out the incredible effects of magnetically structured water on plants & home use (Korean video).

    PLANTS, HOME & BUSINESS USES (I've been using just simple magnetized water without the vortex flow on a potted mosquito plant I have and it's growing like a weed. I've had to cut it in half because it was getting too top-heavy!) The following Korean video shows a water structuring device called "Fantaclean" that doesn't induce a vortex flow, but uses only the magnets.



    NOTE: As you can see, these devices can be used to treat the WHOLE house's water supply if attached at the point where the water first enters the house before it gets diverted. You may also find shower-heads with magnets, or simply fashion strong magnets around the shower-head's neck (which I've done myself). Also use them for your pets water supply. I've noticed that cats prefer running water only (if they can get it). My cat used to always went for the water dripping from the shower tap, and a very old cat from 2 houses down used to always come over to drink from our small outdoor fountain. And no doubt it's probably good for dogs & humans too. (This would mean spring water at the source would be better than spring water stored, transported, and stagnating in a bottle.)

    Buy or make a small water fountain (water pumps are cheap) and attach magnets on the water conduit. Your pets will be healthier & live longer. I've also attached magnets around a small glass spray bottle to use as an refreshing eyewash, skin tonic, or even to clean the mouth after eating. The bottle I use is a cheap cobalt blue glass one like the following:

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    When attaching magnets (using electric tape for example), use at least 4 strong magnets (eg, 2 opposing Norths, and 2 opposing Souths). You may use more magnets of course if you can fit them on. But do experiment with different magnetic arrangements & numbers to see what seems to work better or which you prefer. There seems to be no hard fast rules about how to arrange the magnets. I've also added a bigger magnet at the bottom of one of my bottles that I use to water my plants. (Also experiment by attaching magnets to the plant's pot...and also attach magnets around your garden hose.)

    There are many other potentially useful therapy products, but I will end it here for now and perhaps pick up later.
     
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  8. Grey Matter

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    A chiropractor did the trick for me.
     
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    I had back problems for years. It was so bad... it hurt sitting... it hurt standing... it hurt lying down. I found some stretches that helped. I also went to a chiropractor and he helped a lot. Eventually... after trying everything I could think of it slowly got better... except when my back gets cold.
     
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    Back Injuries will destroy you and make it impossible to do much
    I have suffered from low back pain caused from work and my day’s of tennis lol
     
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    I am at 44 training mma with a mild to mod low back strain.
    It’s the beg class lol
     
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    Do not forget about disability. For many entry level jobs, the employer requires that the worker remain standing the entire shift. This type of widespread employer policy can make it very difficult or impossible for someone with a bad back. So whereas a bad back might not be so terrible for a college degree worker, it can represent a virtual disability for a worker without such college credentials.

    Employers very often have this policy even for many jobs that should not really require it.
     
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    Modern chiropractic treatment can be a good shot to try.
     
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    The best advice is to work with a licensed physical therapist. There are a plethora of people out there with herniated discs, and Minimal back pain. It depends upon nerve compression and if it’s actually occurring. The best back routines include decompression exercises, which a therapist can show you.....and walking at least 30 minuted to an hour every day.
    You’re right, Back braces are stop gap and not long term solutions.
    Physical therapy MUST be done by you. You can’t just depend upon the visits to a therapist. They are educational visits for proper back maintenance and it’s up to you to find a routine you can follow for a life time. .
     
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